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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 10-29-2014, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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Just wanted to stick my head in the door and introduce myself. I'm 65 and have been riding since 1963. Do all my own building, fabrication, and machining as needed. My taste in motorcycles is eclectic, leaning heavily towards twin cylinder machines in parallel or "V" configuration. My current rides are a 2008 Triumph Bonneville, a 1992 Sportster, and a Royal Enfield Bullet. I recently unloaded my 2000 Harley Road King before the cam chain tensioners exploded and the flywheels shifted out of alignment! And therein lies my interest in Victory. The engine seems fairly bullet proof compared to the late models Harleys, so they've grabbed my interest. Anyway, I'll be hanging around learning, and hopefully contributing where I can. Thanks for your time!

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Welcome! I am envious of your fabrication abilities.
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Welcome! I am envious of your fabrication abilities.
Thanks for the welcome! One of the reasons I'm here is to find out if I can put my fabrication skills (limited though they are) to work using a Victory engine. I'm not much on cruisers, but I think the Victory engine has the potential to be swapped into a frame designed along the lines of a "standard" motorcycle, or something leaning towards a cafe racer build. Maybe like a scaled up Norton Featherbed frame? OK, I'm crazy, but I know the right engine when I see it!

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Thanks for the welcome! One of the reasons I'm here is to find out if I can put my fabrication skills (limited though they are) to work using a Victory engine. I'm not much on cruisers, but I think the Victory engine has the potential to be swapped into a frame designed along the lines of a "standard" motorcycle, or something leaning towards a cafe racer build. Maybe like a scaled up Norton Featherbed frame? OK, I'm crazy, but I know the right engine when I see it!

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Perhaps more along the line of a Vincent. I think the motor could be used as a stressed member in a light bike but I am not absolutely sure. http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en...NS/98793/98898

Would be great with an FFE
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I know they look like they would not handle good, but you got to ride to believe. Take out the X-bikes, Cross Roads or Cross Country, or even the Vision. They got alunimun frames and handle very good. Would be cool to take one and strip it down to the bare esentials or cafe one out. Cory Ness sort of did it, but to me he had the foot pegs out in front to much on his bike, and I believe he used a steel frame bike. Victory offers demo rides. They bring their truck to the dealers and let people demo any of their bikes, could be a good chance for you to ride and see what you think of the engines and the frames.

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Ride the Highball or Judge... Both handle unreal. My XC handles well too but no where near as well as those other 2.
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I actually had a similar thoughts to yours but these guys are right.
These bikes do handle exceedingly well just as is.
You can stop spending time in the shop and just spend it riding and feel good about it.
Would own a lot less machinery if I had test rode one years ago.
They are nothing like a Harley, in a good way.
Test riding one can be hazardous to your pocket book though but if you do I recommend as mentioned you look up the schedule for the factory demo rides and show up early and ride every bike they have a couple of times. The factory guys are good that way they really don't care and you can run their bikes hard without getting any flak.

I'm from a HD backround too and traded my 2004 Ultra in on a Cross Country 8 ball 14 for the exact same reasons you stated you got rid of yours. They are time bombs and junk. I was tired of pulling the cam cover to look to see if I was down to the metal yet, putting in cams and not really gaining any power and spending my spare time working on fuel maps. My crank was already at .0025 the day it rolled out of the factory so a gear drive might or might not have even worked. But these seem to be much neater.
No Siamese intake port. Shine a flashlight down the Throttle body and look at the top of the piston. Just like an old jag but with two intake valves. Got to love that. Bolt in a cam and a fuel tuner and get 100 hp or so and 100 torque no pinning or welding the flywheels etc. The came chain tensioners are about 9 inches long and as wide as the chain I think. Not likely to wear one out in your lifetime. Motor runs cool, floods oil through the top end it with one section of the pump like a Porsche. High pressure section of the pump runs something like 80 psi for the plain bearing rods. Unit construction uses the trans as part of the crankcase gets away from the chainsaw size crankcase of the HD very little pressure on the backside of the rings and no oil carry over issues. They do have Nikasil (sp?) cylinders so you may want to rethink your break in methods.
So far I love the bike. Not much on Polaris but they tell no more lies than HD. However the motor and the bike itself is light years better. as far as I can tell so far anyways. You'll find a lot of former HD people here.

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Roland Sands did an awesome job with the "Hammer" frame and motor setup to produce a great "Cafe Racer" - This bike is so much more than what little Ness did with his version.





IMHO - I think little Ness has a lot of learnin to do from his granpa with "design" before he goes off and chews anything more....

I would second that of the modular frame as a GREAT starting point to put these motors into. Ive done it and its a very easy frame to work with if you have the types of skills you mentioned in your post Bob. Mine is a simpler version, but I wanted to use the existing cowling and make it better without the crash bars. See my build in the link below

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Perhaps more along the line of a Vincent. I think the motor could be used as a stressed member in a light bike but I am not absolutely sure.
Joe, you've read my mind! Whenever I look at the Victory engine, Vincent comes to mind. Not that they look alike, because they don't really, but the heart of a big air/oil cooled V-Twin in a sporting chassis sounds great to me. I've been to the nearest Victory dealer (about 80 miles from my house) and looked/sat on them but haven't ridden one. I'm a motorcycle minimalist, so of all the stock bikes the High Ball appeals to me the most. Still, I'd like a bike with "standard" ergonomics. Higher saddle and foot pegs/controls further back. Lots to consider, and I'm moving slowly. Victory engines from late model wrecked bikes seem to go fairly cheap, and that's a big draw towards doing a ground up build. Whichever way I go, thanks for the welcome and the input, and best regards.

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Is this what your are looking to do????




or maybe more of something like this?



No thats cool!

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