Greetings to all!! Figured I would join up as I will be gettin a bike shortly-- but havent decided wich one. I'm down to the hammer or the jackpot as I like the 250 rear tire. I am looking for opinions on the difference in rideability between the two- is one more difficult to handle / corner? I am soliciting input from folks who have some seat time on both. Any input is appreciated
I've ridden both and own one of the two. Same frame. Same engine. Different front wheel sizes. Hammer has duel discs up front. Same middling rear shock. Hammer has the inverted/stouter front shock set up. JP's front is conventional. I think the JP comes lowered a little from the factory (could be wrong about that). Not sure about the Hammer. Can't recall how much different front ends' trail & rake were. Two up on the JP and a seat cowl/2 up for the Hammer. The '02-'07 are open loop systems and have higher compression than the '08 and ups which are a semi-closed loop system.
That being said, from my [dim] recollection of my limited time on a Hammer, both require more steering input than a "skinny"tire rear wheeled bike, with the Hammer requiring slightly less input due to the smaller/wider front wheel. The duel discs are nice as well, and combined with the smaller wider front wheel, stopped better.
I read a lot of reviews on the two bikes and was really concerned about all the complaints about handling. What a load of crap that turned out to be. These are POWER CRUISERS, not sport bikes. If I ever met one of the guys who complained about the handling, I'd tell them to take a remedial MC riding course and learn how to ride a damn motorcycle!
Both bikes are a BLAST to ride. Both bikes are show stoppers/head turners. Both bikes are easy and relatively cheap to get 20+ additional HP and 20-30 additional TQ simply by adding a good set of pipes matched to the cams, a better breather and a fuel controller. That's right and bares repeating:Both bikes are easy and relatively cheap to get 20+ additional HP and 20-30 additional TQ simply by adding a good set of pipes matched to the cams, a better breather and a fuel controller. Yup. All you gotta do is pick the low hanging fruit for HUGE uptick in performance. Both bikes are built like anvils: strong & reliable, although somewhat clunky in the trannies. Oh yeah, the engine's STOCK cams, pistons and bottom end can EASILY handle the upgrades I outlined.
In the end, the classic muscle custom cruiser aesthetic spoke to me and I bought a JP.
My advice: Ride them and then GET ONE. Good luck!
I've only ridden a hopped up hammer, that big 250 tire makes sure you know your riding. It looks great but makes everything work a little harder, I don't think it improves anything other than looks, width of burnout and traction off the line.... big n heavy is bad for braking and takes more power to turn it but the hammer was 129/144 so it had some.
Must have been a big bore 116". Lucky you.