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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-23-2017, 06:51 AM Thread Starter
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I am a new Victory rider (2016 Victory Gunner) from Sydney. I've been riding motorcycles for just over two years now, starting on a 2014 KTM Duke 390 in early 2015, and then moving to a 2011 KTM RC8R in July 2016. I wouldn't give the RC8R up for anything, but three months ago I bought a new 2016 Victory Gunner as a second bike, for more relaxed rides. Since then, I have been trying to get it closer and closer to a sportsbike in handling and performance, while becoming addicted to the massive bottom end torque you just can't get on a sportsbike. This forum has been very helpful in my modification decisions, so I thought I would join and share my own experiences as well.

So far, I have made the following changes, starting with the suspension, as the ground clearance was the most disappointing characteristic of the showroom bike:

1. New springs and valves (Racetech) on the forks, chosen and installed by local suspension specialists (does mostly sports and trail bike work), Shock Treatment, to suit my weight;
2. Custom-ordered Matris shock, with 20mm extra travel, which can be adjusted back down by 20mm, and is also adjustable for preload and rebound (through Shock Treatment, to suit my weight and preferences);
3. Freedom Performance Exhaust (Sharp Curve Radius)
4. Lloydz adjustable timing wheel
5. Lloydz Torque Tubes
6. Lloydz drop-in cams
7. Lloydz 1/4 throttle ring
8. Power Commander V, custom-mapped by Doin' Bikes, with a separate map for each cylinder
9. Reduced pullback handlbars (drag bars) from a 2013 Victory Judge, shortened by 1" on each side (a bit more clearance for lane-filtering)
10. Avon Cobra tyres (130/90 16 front and 140/90 16 rear, as per OEM Dunlop sizes)
11. Some cosmetic touches (Arlen Ness Victory Grips, engine covers, smoked indicator lenses, black powdercoating over chrome headlight ring, blacked out speedo)

The mods have transformed the bike into something a lot sharper, punchier, more raw and more exciting than the stock bike. I am now absolutely in love with the bike. Unfortunately, the modifications bug is still there, so I have a few more goodies on the way, including 160/80 16 Avon rear tyre (increases width by 2cm, but also heigh by 11mm), Speed Merchant footpegs from Conquest Customs (for more ground clearance), custom-shortened OEM levers from Conquest Customs, a custom seat (to be made locally), and a few more cosmetic bits. I am currently deciding which brand to choose for an LED headlight unit, and also considering an underdrive pulley (made by Conquest Customs, but sold in black by Witchdoctors). I will try and share some pics in future, as well as dyno figures (from a much more conservative dyno than the ones I see producing figures with similar mods from the US, but which is helpful for before and after comparisons).

If I was in the US, I'd probably just put my bike in the incredible hands of Scott, at Conquest Customs. One problem here with his rear fenders though is that we have to have the license plate placed behind the rear wheel, which would not only require fabricating a special bracket coming to the back of the wheel from the axle (something like the Ducati Diavel variety), but would also ruin the overall awesome aesthetics of Scott's rear end treatment.

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Hello from Poland!

You went for the green one or grey, ups... Suede Titanium, I mean?

Hope to see your new baby soon!

P.S. You really jumped directly from Duke 390 onto RC8R? You must be brave.... or young!

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Hello back to you! Suede Titanium was the only colour left. Runout stock. I purchased it after Polaris decided to shut Victory down. I should have some pics up in a couple of days, when I figure out how.
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Yes, I still have the Duke 390 (just listed it for sale). I try to be a bit of both.

P.S. I did try and get some decent rider training on road and track while I was on my Provisional License with the 390. I was also quick to get some track training on the RC8R, but I have a long way to go to tame that beast.

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Hah! Sometime I was thinking: maybe next would be Super Duke...
Finally I decided to go for more relaxed ride, 'specially I've been dreaming of riding a cruiser for years... But... there was always some "but" and something more important, and "maybe next year", and so on, and 15 years gone by in the meantime...
Then I said: no more! and brought my Gunner home. BTW for comparable price with Super Duke I got some 100kg more flesh driven by half of the hp... I hope I will ride further on that kind of bike
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Superduke 1290 is great, but too refined and ordinary compared to the RC8R or any of the top superbikes. I tested it before buying the RC8R, and then again a couple of months ago when the RC8 was in for some work. I actually enjoy my Gunner more than the Superduke, after the mods. The Superduke is much quicker and and a lot more advanced and balanced in performance, braking, gearbox, clutch, handling and rider aids, of course, but just not raw enough, IMO.

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Welcome from Florida!

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Thank you! I'd love to be riding in sunny Florida right now. It is sunny, right?
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Superduke 1290 is great, but too refined and ordinary compared to the RC8R or any of the top superbikes. I tested it before buying the RC8R, and then again a couple of months ago when the RC8 was in for some work. I actually enjoy my Gunner more than the Superduke, after the mods. The Superduke is much quicker and and a lot more advanced and balanced in performance, braking, gearbox, clutch, handling and rider aids, of course, but just not raw enough, IMO.
Whatever it is, I think SDuke is closer to RC8 in regard to performance, handling, ride style etc, than to Gunner Definitely I wouldn't say it's for relaxed riding. One day I may go for somenthing a little stronger, but for a while the 690 with its 150kg and 73hp is more than enough.

Well, it's a Vic forum, not KTM I love my Gunner, and looking forward to some mods, most in appearance than performance, the latter suits me hmmm... for a while, at least
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Whatever it is, I think SDuke is closer to RC8 in regard to performance, handling, ride style etc, than to Gunner Definitely I wouldn't say it's for relaxed riding. One day I may go for somenthing a little stronger, but for a while the 690 with its 150kg and 73hp is more than enough.

Well, it's a Vic forum, not KTM I love my Gunner, and looking forward to some mods, most in appearance than performance, the latter suits me hmmm... for a while, at least
If you haven't already tried it, you might be surprised at how easy and relaxed the Superduke is to ride, unless you really open up the throttle. The Gunner keeps me much more interested at usual urban speeds. After the Lloydz cams, Torque Tubes, Freedom exhaust, adjustable timing wheel and 1/4 throttle ring of course. And the custom dyno tuning with PC5 made it even sharper compared to the map the dealership originally installed after the mods. The suspension mods also have a lot to do with making it sharper and more involving.

People always talk about the power advantage of sports or naked sports bikes over cruisers, but they underestimate the difference the massive torque of a bike like a (lightly modded) Victory 106 makes in acceleration (start and roll-on) and feel at street-legal speeds. A bit like diesel compared to petrol engines on cars, or even small turbo petrol engines that produce slightly less power than bigger naturally aspirated petrol engines, but much more torque, starting from the bottom.

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