Hello to all Victory Owners out there. I am a Brit working in Holland and have just picked up my 2000 V92 SC from my friendly Ex Victory dealer in Swindon UK (new regulator/rectifier) and driven down to Devon in South West England and then ten hours to South Limburg in southern Holland. South Limburg is a lovely area sandwiched between Belgium to the west and Germany to the East. I am now investigating a stutter on the bike that manifested itself about halfway back that seems to occur at about 50 or 60 mph. I have not investigated yet but I will lift the tank and clean the throttle bodies as a first step having checked the fuel flow from the tank. Having had a throttle position sensor go on a Moto Guzzi a couple of years back I suspect that is the culprit. Question, does anyone know a source of the correct TPS for the bike? Also I want to track down an original clutch cable as the one I have fitted looks incorrect. I would value contact with other owners of V92SC, I have a project V92C in build as well. Best wishes to all and safe riding. Andrew
It looks like I am first on this dance floor. I had a Cross Roads, not a bike like yours, but I've been on this forum long enough that I picked up enough knowledge to be dangerous and I like to start with the cheap and easy things first. If your bike sat for a long spell, you might want to run a good cleaner in the petrol tank. In the US, Seafoam is the favorite brand. If there are more than 10K miles (or the metric equivalent) on the spark plugs, put in new ones. Cleaning the throttle bodies is a good thing too, but as far as the TPS goes, hopefully another member will step onto this dance floor and cut in.
Oh....and welcome to this forum. Lots of good guys and advice here.
Thanks very much for your swift response. Let us hope that there are some more so that I can get this mystery misfire sorted. I will of course pull the plugs as a starter in the process. I took the precaution of adding a bottle of fuel system cleaner during my run across France and Belgium last weekend. Thanks again, ride safe. Andrew
Thank you Skin for your welcome. Despite my best efforts I have yet to ride on two wheels in the States. I did manage a few weeks on a Honda Shadow in Canada many years ago but don't tell anyone! Best, Andrew
Welcome to the site. I would be checking for vacuum leaks especially since you will have the tank off. The throttle body goose neck and on the right side there are 2 rubber caps that are notorious for splitting. As far as the clutch cable many have installed the Barnett cables, they are after market but are top notch and I believe are even a bit cheaper than the oem.
welcome to the forum from Canada Del ....afraid I can't help with that bike but great to have you here...there will be some step up and help you out no doubt...8)
Welcome to the forum. Your entry line reminds me of a line from a George Thoroughgood song "It wasn't me " AKA " I met a German girl in England Who was goin' to school in France ". (Just havigf you off mate) At any rate don't know if it'll help but there is a "V92C parts manual here: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/aoq581k2ab25z/Victory_Manuals. Should have the parts ID in it.....Hope it helps and again, welcome. LMYR
Thank you kindly for the link. That clutch cable is definitely suspect, there is a click as you pull it. New one to be ordered. Oh, yes and the rear indicator lenses have 'Harley Davidson' stamped on them. Hmmmm...
I heard back from Don Woods Victory spares - they have no part number for the TPS and I have to order the whole throttle body assembly. I read somewhere that these TPS were common to many automobile applications, the Guzzi one I got was for a Citroen hatchback or something. What I need is the original manufacturers part number rather than the Victory part number. I will keep digging.
https://www.noemtz.com/ Last I knew he has a batch of new TPS sensors. There is a wrong and a right way to screw these on too. I think Vic shop detailed that in a video. On HD's you want to hold the sensor against the butterfly a certain way so there is no play.
Sorry I meant to reply separately to the question about where l am in Holland. I am in Sittard, South Limburg which is as close to Belgium and Germany as makes no difference. But the Dutch know the difference! Nearest German City is Aachen. Which has a Louis Fun Company shop. See Louis.de for good kit and tools. You would be welcome to visit. Hopefully I will have sourced a cable before then!
You may not need to buy a new "Victory" cable. If mine ever breaks....
3/32 cable from home depot or ace (or local auto part supplier in Holland) and 2 barrel type cable stops. Pull the broken cable out of the liner and feed the new cable in
Bare braided steel cable on 2014 CCT measures 2.5mm (0.098")
Cable stops from AutoZone $3 (not sure what euros would be) (or local auto part supplier in Holland)
Bolts from home depot $3 (not sure what euros would be) (or local home DIY store in Holland).
Get the cable, cut it to length, pull the old one out, lube up the new cable a bit and feed it through. Put ends on. Ride it like you stole it! ;-) LMYR
Be careful lubing up the new cable, you don't want to get most lubricants into the inside of the cable sleeve as this can cause the plastic sleeve to swell and make movement of the cable difficult resulting in very hard clutch level pull.
Thanks to all for your suggestions. I have spoken with Barnett and they advised me to measure from handlebar to inline adjuster in order to get the right length. They carry two V92 lengths, I am guessing one for the Cruiser and one for the sport cruiser. So I will try that over the weekend knowing that the existing one is not stock. And the reason for the clicking is an undersized barrel around the lever nipple. I do not even want to talk about the lash-up at the clutch actuator end... Storms in Holland today and showers over the weekend should keep me in the garage.
...and with more storms today I managed to get some time on the bike in the dry. So, pulling the spark plugs was relatively straight forward. My, aren't they a long way down! Looking at them I saw that they were clearly over-gapped' if there is such a word. A quick check showed the first at .040 instead of the handbook .032 inches. The second was no better but interestingly (for me anyway) was that neither plug was actually firmly screwed in. Bizarre. After a good clean, re-gap and a promise to buy new NGKs when next in town I snugged them up tighter. I wonder if they are the originals? I had a Harley once with only 8000 miles which developed a misfire and when l pulled the plugs they were most probably the thirty-odd year old original HD ones. New plugs and the misfire vanished. I'll see if it does the trick with the Victory. So onto the top of the injection throttle bodies. Having watched Rylan's very useful how-to video l got jiggy with the screwdriver and opened to top to find rather more oil sloshing around in the airbox than was expecting (!) and frankly minging throttle bodies. I mopped out the oil which I assumed came from the engine breather (an overfill perhaps by a previous owner?) and used some carb cleaner to restore the lustre of the throttle bodies. Much better. To my relief shining a torch through the route back to the air filter revealed an almost new one in place with no oil contamination. Note to self; keep an eye out for oil contamination in the throttle body box. So the next job was to measure the clutch cable whilst the tank was off. I am still not sure that the cable is an original but it did have the adjuster in the middle hidden under a (perished) rubber bellows that I was expecting. Another look at the lever end and I decided to pull the pivot and see if I could take some slop out of it. The pivot goes through a bushing in the lever with a washer at each end which I wasn't expecting. After I picked them off the floor and cleaned up the assembly I greased it all and put it back together. There was a marked improvement but the nipple is still a loose fit in the lever so I am going to ring Barnett and order a new one. I will see if I cannot get a picture of the throttle bodies after the cleaner did its work.
I also noticed, but have not yet fixed, that the fast idle cable had way too much slack in it. It is only just tweaking the butterflies instead of opening them up a bit. Another job for tomorrow. With a bit of luck the sun will shine and I can work outside....
The other job I managed to do two weeks ago was work out why the rear brake was so poor. Off came the side panel and there was the familiar Brembo reservoir beloved of Guzzi owners the world over. A look inside and all was revealed. Well the filthy brown gloop was revealed. I almost had to spoon it out and enlisted the help of my better half to help pump the crap out! Cleaned the reservoir, bled and refilled. What a surprise the rear brake worked fine. Turning to the front brake which was functioning OK a quick look at the level glass revealed nothing at all. I could not see into the reservoir. With a heavy heart I lifted the lid and sure enough it looked as though the reservoir had been filled with oxtail soup. Because of the twin Brembo set up at the front I pumped each caliper side a bit to eject the crap and then filled them one at a time. Refilled and bled the system. I am expecting great things now but why is it that owners neglect basic safety checks and routine maintenance. It beats me....but then I should have checked all of that before I rode to Holland. ?
A little late to the welcome wagon but anyhow welcome aboard and enjoy your stay from a Dutch guy in Canada (well my parents immigrated from the Netherlands in the 50s)
Thank you Tony. I have actually visited Alberta a few times and spent many a happy hour in the Jasper & Banff areas, motorcycling and chasing the trout. You live in a province of great contrast and beauty. South Limburg is pretty, but Alberta is awesome!
So with the cloud still on the decks and the pilots doubtless in the bar I ventured back into the garage out of the drizzle to see about the fast idle. As I am still getting acquainted with this interesting Victory solution to mixing fuel with air I was still able to see that there was an overall lack of any lubricant on any of the complex of cables, springs and quadrants that make up the rear of the throttle body. Judicious use of light lubrication aerosol had things working much more smoothly and I was able to remove the fast idle cable, get some lube into that, it's a simple Bowden cable with no clever stuff going on in it, and then reset it with a couple of millimetres of slack. Now when I operate the fast idle lever there is an almost immediate movement from the quadrant. Only trial will tell but operating it and returning to its fully off position seemed to work reliably. So with the help of a torch, visibility really was poor today, I was able to explore the throttle body identifying the TPS on the front, the cross head idle screw adjuster at the rear for the quadrant and I was able to have a really good look at the rubber adapter thingummy that mates the throttle body to the metal induction tubes. The good news is that this imfamous item appears to be in really good condition with no damage, smooth surfaces and no evidence of abuse. No tearing or pulling apart. So I am going to put the tank back on after I have invested in a new set of plugs and run it to see if the combination of cleaned throttle bodies and new plugs makes a difference. An I think I have found a TPS supplier. More to follow if my source comes good. I shall have another go at uploading a photo or two.
And here is the rest of the collection in the garage. 1984 Morini 125KJ, 1980 Kawasaki Z1000 CSR, 2000 Vulcan Nomad, still with dead flies from the Ardennes Forest, and the Victory in the foreground.
Very good job at diagnosing the issues! My brother has a 2003 Volcan Nomad, we were just out on some day rides together in and around Calgary Alberta.
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