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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-24-2013, 07:13 PM Thread Starter
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I need some advice or input before i make a costly decision.I have a 2012 8ball hammer.I took a tumble at probably 3rd gear swerving to avoid a deer about three weeks ago,ended on the side of the road in a ditch.I was able to pull the bike out and get on the road,but i had a broken gear shifter, however the bike was in some kind of gear(i cant remember)so i though i could ride it home safely vs calling a tow truck.

The bike moves,might have been in 3rd gear,so i think i can ride it home,as i am riding i see the gear indicator going from 3 to 4 to 5 without me shifting(remember broken gear shifter) so it seems the gears are shifting on their own. My gas light comes on so i had to slow down and get gas.i get the gas and and start back up at a higher gear than 1, because i had to play with clutch let out ever so slowly..to move.I start to move and about 20 miles and the bike snarls and would not move when i throttle...

couple of weeks later, i have a buddy,bike mechanic replace the gear shifter...we can get the bike in 1st, and neutral but will not shift to 2 and up...
My buddy thinks its the clutch and wants me to buy a new clutch kit (almost $800 dollars), i call the dealership to order one and they find it strange that i am ordering a clutch kit,they think its something else..they say it takes a lot to burn out the clutch on a victory and believe the shifter was not put in right....my buddy the mechanic thinks its the clutch.

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First and foremost, I am no mechanic but it sounds like stuff is bent in the shift linkage and maybe an electrical issue. just because the digital gear indicator was advancing, doesn't mean it was shifting by itself.

do the right thing and trailer it to a dealer and have them figure out everything that is wrong with it and fix it right. guessing things wrong will be more costly.


Don't you have insurance??

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First and foremost, I am no mechanic but it sounds like stuff is bent in the shift linkage and maybe an electrical issue. just because the digital gear indicator was advancing, doesn't mean it was shifting by itself.

do the right thing and trailer it to a dealer and have them figure out everything that is wrong with it and fix it right. guessing things wrong will be more costly.


Don't you have insurance??
yeah, i have insurance,full coverage,if i damaged the bike further by riding it after i broke the shifter in a tumble.....insurance wouldn't cover it...
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they will cover it. just take it to the dealer, tell them you laid the bike down and tell them what it's doing. Contact your insurance company and tell them you swerved to avoid a deer and now need your bike fixed. full coverage is full coverage. it doesn't matter what you did or how it happened. In the insurance company's mind, it's your fault. they will pay either way. f ou don't want to make a claim, then just pay your dealer.

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So if you rode it home in 3rd or some gear not 1st, but now it's stuck in 1st then it's external to the gearbox. During new shifter installation fiddling with it got it to shift. Trannies either shift or they don't. Yours apparently does.
If it shifts into 1st, reacts to clutch input and moves in first and then finds neutral the clutch is OK. Why would the clutch be fragged because you took a shot to the shifter anyway? They have the same zip code but they don't live on the same street. Maybe. Anythings possible but if Pop was to bet money I would yank the primary and have a look at the shift ratchet. That shaft could have taken a shot too since it's directly attached to the helm joints in the linkage. Impact that gershtunked the shifter could well have travelled through the linkage and beaten up the mess of bells and whistles Victory calls a shift ratchet. There's plenty of stuff to bung up in that bit of crumpet. Could be as simple as something got overextended and needs to be worked free and reset. Could be junk. In an alternate universe I would say "don't worry about it. How much could a widget like that cost?" But this is Victory universe so bring smelling salts to the parts counter.

If you are not comfortable doing surgery, get the dealer involved. If you have a high deductible or hate rate adjustment, don't get the insurance company involved.

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So if you rode it home in 3rd or some gear not 1st, but now it's stuck in 1st then it's external to the gearbox. During new shifter installation fiddling with it got it to shift. Trannies either shift or they don't. Yours apparently does.
If it shifts into 1st, reacts to clutch input and moves in first and then finds neutral the clutch is OK. Why would the clutch be fragged because you took a shot to the shifter anyway? They have the same zip code but they don't live on the same street. Maybe. Anythings possible but if Pop was to bet money I would yank the primary and have a look at the shift ratchet. That shaft could have taken a shot too since it's directly attached to the helm joints in the linkage. Impact that gershtunked the shifter could well have travelled through the linkage and beaten up the mess of bells and whistles Victory calls a shift ratchet. There's plenty of stuff to bung up in that bit of crumpet. Could be as simple as something got overextended and needs to be worked free and reset. Could be junk. In an alternate universe I would say "don't worry about it. How much could a widget like that cost?" But this is Victory universe so bring smelling salts to the parts counter.

If you are not comfortable doing surgery, get the dealer involved. If you have a high deductible or hate rate adjustment, don't get the insurance company involved.
Thanks Pop,i am convinced my buddy is out of his league working on my victory,great mechanic but has only worked on Japanese bikes,the only reason i didn't want to go through insurance is the risk of having them total the bike,(progressive is weird about totaling bikes if it has a bank lien on it,they estimate to restore it to the original condition...anyways i will be having the bike towed to dealership today....Thanks for your input and will post what the dealership diagnoses there...Thanks again...
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Progressive works real well with us and the bike owners. Even had them pay for other parts that really didn't need to be replaced. They take care of the riders the insure. The ones I have worked Witt hat is.

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