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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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I am a long time Harley rider and am thinking of replacing my 2009 Ultra Classic with either a Vision or Cross Country tour. I did a demo ride on a Vision when I bought my Ultra and really like it but for a couple things. The first was it was to modern looking but I am starting to like it. The second was the saddle bags I really did not like the way they were compartmentalized and the side loading. I could live with side load but has there been any improvement in the compartmented problem? Really like the Cross Country Tour and the storage is much better layed out.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-23-2013, 12:28 PM
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The bags on the Vision is by far and away the biggest complaint about the bike. And that's really about it. It's been rumored that the bike is going to be remodeled but so far, it's been just a rumor.

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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-24-2013, 12:30 AM
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If the bags/storage mean a lot to you, take a harder look at the Cross bikes... Great storage and a great bike! Its taken a year, but Ive also grown very fond of the Vision look w/o the trunk but I don't regret buying the XC at all...

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-24-2013, 01:32 PM
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I think the storage issue on the Vision is way over rated. I USED to think 2 of the same things which was too modern and not enough storage. Side by side with my Goldwing buddies, basically same effect just a little differn style on loading saddle bags. They are not your HD or Vic TC drop in the top bags, thats for sure but storage wise I have adapted no issue with room to spare. Trunk is spacious.

What seems to keep getting looked over in most of these Vision or XCT posts is the fixed fairing handling and seating POSTION. Whats your height? Most folks that rode a Vision, rode mine or sat on mine around the 6' have something to say. I know when I ride my TC after riding the Vision it is a very different ride. Like someone told me and I understand, you get in a Vision, you set ON everything else. That sums up the feeling to me. Next is - will you be riding 2up or solo primarily? Alot of input here for the 2up riders vs the solo's. I would say this. Get the airshock set for your body weight, 1/2 to full tank of gas (if affects the balance in the positive) and get out and ride that vision for a few hours. My first 100 miles, I thought I made a mistake. That was the last time I looked back. Absolutely the bike for me. Im going to demo day's at local dealer tomorrow and I love riding the XCT but the low profile handling of the VV is it in my book. If storage is a key asset with 2up being a general riding posture, I would really lean towards an XCT but my Mrs cant do more than short hopes due an injury so its of no concern to me.

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Yes with a vision you have to be smart on how you pack and what you bring a long. XC you can bring the kitchen sink with room left over.
Vision is better in the rain when you push the button and raise the windshield all the way up.
Vision has less wind turbulence where as the XC guys are spending money try to find the answer.
Your Ultra is a good bike. Yes the Vic only use one oil for every thing and it drains out the bottom with no mess. Tires will coast more for a Vic I bet.
The Vic will give you a smoother ride and as easy in tight coners or parking lots. Less chrome doodads for a Vic.
Me had Harley's all my riding life and the one i really liked was the Road glide had 3 of them. My last was a 09 street glide.
I love my vision and don't want any thing ells

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Originally Posted by Tims_04V92TC View Post
I USED to think
With the right paint job I love the styling. I think the bags would be adequate with a luggage rack up top for shoes. I have to strap a bag on my box now for that too.

A few things bother me about the Vision.

1. The front fender has been known to fall off and impede steering.

2. The rearview mirrors give me a great view of my elbows. I do see there are provisions on the handlebars for stalks. Maybe I could remove the fairing mounted rearviews and store a few airplane sized booze bottles in there?

3. I love the idea of a hydraulic clutch, but the Visions I've rode have the engagement point way too far at the end of the lever travel for my stubby hands to modulate well.

4. HEAT! Did your mods help alleviate that?

5. No way to connect headphones to the radio.

Aside from that I really like the bike. It's my wife's favorite Vic perch and that means a lot.

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Alot depends on your height. I am 6'2" and feel VERY cramped on the Vision. The XCT fits me like a glove. Storage is as storage is, but if the bike don't fit your comfort then move on. I like alot of the things the Vision has to offer (electronics and fixed fairing). I came from a GL1800 and it took me ALOT of work to get comfortable on it, but I was finally able to. The Vision is more cramped than the wing, in my opinion and for my riding style.

Do some riding on both if you can and make your pick. But think about it this way, do you pack more than you ride, or ride more than you pack. I could make the XCT or the Vision work for storage, but for riding it has to be the XCT for me.

I understand what Tim is saying though.....but then again he can't reach my highway pegs......LOL :-)

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