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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-31-2014, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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Hi, my name is Ruckster. I've been riding and building Harleys since the early 1970s. I worked for NASA for a lot of years, as a fabrication specialist. I've owned a bunch of Harleys, mostly touring bikes. I will keep three of them, and sell one to buy a Victory.

I am looking at the crossroads eightball, with the windshield. I've got a lot of orthopedic problems, including a very bad right hip. The Harleys are just getting too heavy. I also don't like what they're doing with the factory, and their products. This bike is lower and fits me well; I have a 38 inch inseam, I don't have short legs. But I still like that the center of gravity is lower, and the "feel of the weight" is lower currently.

I've been saying I'm going to buy a victory for five or six years now, and I never seem to get around to it. I know very little about them other than their supposedly reliability, the 106 motor appears to be a good choice. I do most of my own work, so I'm looking for a bike that I can work on myself. I tend to ride less than 400 miles a day, probably less than 200 anymore. But I tend to ride most every day, and like to go on longer rides a couple times a week. I want the windshield and the bags, that's why the crossroads eightball appeared to be the model for me.

Any information of any kind by people that own the crossroads eightball would be great. Any information on victories in general that I need to know about would be great too.

Thank you very much in advance, Ruckster
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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-31-2014, 08:03 PM
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All I can say is ride one. I have a Cross Country Tour, which is similar, except basically I have a front fairing, lowers, and a trunk. I came from a 2002 GoldWing and was going to get an Ultra Classic. Then I rode the XCT. It's longer, and much roomier. I think a Victory Cross bike would fit a 38" inseam a lot better than a Harley, but only you can determine that.

I've only got 8400 miles on mine so far, but it's very easy to work on. I've installed fuel controller, timing wheel (advances timing), and a few other doodads and goodies.

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Hi, my name is Ruckster. I've been riding and building Harleys since the early 1970s. I worked for NASA for a lot of years, as a fabrication specialist. I've owned a bunch of Harleys, mostly touring bikes. I will keep three of them, and sell one to buy a Victory.

I am looking at the crossroads eightball, with the windshield. I've got a lot of orthopedic problems, including a very bad right hip. The Harleys are just getting too heavy. I also don't like what they're doing with the factory, and their products. This bike is lower and fits me well; I have a 38 inch inseam, I don't have short legs. But I still like that the center of gravity is lower, and the "feel of the weight" is lower currently.

I've been saying I'm going to buy a victory for five or six years now, and I never seem to get around to it. I know very little about them other than their supposedly reliability, the 106 motor appears to be a good choice. I do most of my own work, so I'm looking for a bike that I can work on myself. I tend to ride less than 400 miles a day, probably less than 200 anymore. But I tend to ride most every day, and like to go on longer rides a couple times a week. I want the windshield and the bags, that's why the crossroads eightball appeared to be the model for me.

Any information of any kind by people that own the crossroads eightball would be great. Any information on victories in general that I need to know about would be great too.

Thank you very much in advance, Ruckster
You may have to spend a little time finding a windshield that blows the wind around you to your liking. Other than that, the Cross Roads is a fantastic bike. I bet you'll be pleased with your decision.




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Ruckster--I feel your pain, so if you are sitting on your wallet, take it out, put it in a jacket pocket and never sit on it again. More guys screw up backs and hips with their wallet. Lecture over--smoke 'em if you got 'em.
I've been riding since 1952 and have disliked cruisers all that time. Been touring on first generation Yamaha Ventures since they came out in 1983 with lots of two-up riding; about 200,000 miles worth. So passenger comfort is a requisite with me.
Got hit with the Big C a while back, came out of it OK, but not as strong and the Venture became too intimidating. If I was to continue riding, I needed a lower seat height and CG. I swallowed my pride, held my nose and commenced to search for a bagger cruiser I could tolerate. Tough assignment.
That was the summer of 2009 and every cruiser I considered either had a passenger seat from hell, little suspension travel, poor lean angle or all three, so I hung it up when the riding season ended. During the winter, I saw ads for the new Cross bikes in the mags and the first thing I noted was a passenger seat an adult would be comfortable sitting on for a long ride. I went on line and checked out the fantastic specs and the forum folk were posting about comfort and handling, but no mechanical problems. A test ride on twisty back roads made a believer outa me. I ordered a red XR that is now 4 years old and has 16K miles and still makes me smile whether I'm on it or standing near it. Victory made a cruiser that a cruiser hater can love and so will anyone who tries one!
As a Vic owner, you will have much more riding time due to less maintenance time. You won't look back.

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Here are a few pluses:
Decent wind protection but you may need lowers to avoid the beard blast.
Most find the seat more comfortable than any OEM seat they've ever used.
The biggest saddlebags on the market.
Not quite as much torque in the low rpms as a HD but will outrun most stock HDs.
Feels lighter standing up than a RK.
Big floorboards for plenty of foot positions.
Great handling in the twisties and very good lean angle for a big bike.

Hopefully all that helps but I'll add that I tour a lot with a friend that has a 2011 Street Glide. We usually do 400 to 900 miles per day and get almost exactly the same mpg (about 13k moles last summer).
Check the Victory Motorcycles website for the demo schedule. If you demo a bike during demo days they almost always give a coupon for $1000 off or in store cash (depends on how the dealer reads it). Also if you are active duty or retired military they give you $1000 off a bike anytime.

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I absolutely love my 12 Crossroads! It's a good all around bike for long rides, short rides, and loves the twisties. The hard bags are spacious, lockable and waterproof. No bike is perfect, butI think the Cross roads is the best bang for your buck.

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Coming on here and asking if Victories are good bikes is like walking into a barber shop and asking if you need a hair cut. Or maybe asking a real estate broker if it is a good time to sell.

So here it comes: Yessir! Vics are great bikes!! Truly.

You might get a different response on the HD forums or M109 forums, but those guys are not as happy as we are.

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I came to this forum to get both sides of the story, if there is one. If someone hates a bike, they usually leave their mark. RICZ has the right idea, I think.
My local dealer is not the best... The first time I ride in, they could not be bothered to skip if I needed anything. Yesterday I had to find someone to ask about a crossroad, they had to find the floor guy.
I am on an ipad, the autocorrect kills me. Skip above should be "see if". I can't seem to edit in this browser.
So no one has had any problems with their crossroads eight ball? I guess I'm just looking for the rest of the story. Skeptic, yeah. NASA stands for never a straight answer.
I really do appreciate these posts tho. I'm starting to see I need to find a better dealer and take one out.
Thanks very much for the info, more to ponder.
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I came to this forum to get both sides of the story, if there is one. If someone hates a bike, they usually leave their mark. RICZ has the right idea, I think.
My local dealer is not the best... The first time I ride in, they could not be bothered to skip if I needed anything. Yesterday I had to find someone to ask about a crossroad, they had to find the floor guy.
I am on an ipad, the autocorrect kills me. Skip above should be "see if". I can't seem to edit in this browser.
So no one has had any problems with their crossroads eight ball? I guess I'm just looking for the rest of the story. Skeptic, yeah. NASA stands for never a straight answer.
I really do appreciate these posts tho. I'm starting to see I need to find a better dealer and take one out.
Thanks very much for the info, more to ponder.
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If you're looking for someone who's had problems with the XR, you'll be looking for a long time.

Here's the thing with Victory: you don't really need the dealer. Sure, you have to buy the bike from them, but after that, you'll forget how to get to your local dealer.

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Funny you posted this. I had a 2008 Road Glide and in need of my left hip being replaced. The heavy RG was starting to wear on me. I went to Harley to ask about the Heritage. I got treated like shit. I called around about Victory's since I have been slightly interested in them. 1 offered me 2k more than Harley, next one I called offered me 2k more than them. I went and road a Cross Country. It is now in my garage. It is lighter, center of gravity is lower. Overall a better fit for my crippled ass!! I still have to shift around a little but no where near what I was having to do. Getting on and off is not a circus act now!! I am very happy with it. Bought in January and do NOT have buyers remorse. I have since sold every single item of Harley crap I had. And like most guys, I had a ton of it!!!! Bought my exhaust with the proceeds!!!! I hope this has helped and good luck. PAIN SUCKS!!

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