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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-21-2014, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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I haven't had a bike for sometime my last was a 89 Goldwing. Sold it when there wasn't time to ride after marriage and kids. Well, its time to get back out there! The Victorys have really caught my eye. I live in an area where HDs are everywhere and I want a different style. Decided this was the year. I have come across a nicely equipped 2007 KP. really like how it fits. ( I'm about 5'8" 155#'s) and its reasonably priced. I have also found a fairly basic 2010 Cross Roads that is about 3hrs away that is in my price range also. I have test rode a few KPs (05-09s) and really like em. I don't have anyway to get on a Cross Roads without drivin the 3 hrs. So my question is is how does the seat height and handling compare? One thing that concerens me of the Cross Roads has the Arlan Ness Ape Hangers. How do they fit and what would it take to put stock bars back on? That's enough for now. Thanks for your replies.
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Seat height is about the same. XR is a lot heavier, but is roomier and has nice bags.

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I have both. CR out handles the Pin . My Pin will smoke my Cr side by side. The CR will leave the pin in the corners though. Seat height is about the same. The Pin has a more raw motorcycle feel to me. The CR is more comfortable and tame feeling. I have been meaning to sell my Kingpin, but every time I ride it, it puts a big smile on my face. Tough decision for you. For me though, I will be selling the Pin since I like to go on fairly long rides. And the CR definitely outshines the Pin in that arena.

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I am looking for more so for a cruiser. I am new to the Victories. Anything in particular I need to watch out for with the XR? I know the guy with the KP and the bike. The XR has about 10k miles on it. What is the average life of the tires, belt ect. It is pretty stock with only windshield and leather bags. so there is room for some personalization. Any upgrades recommended? Cost?
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I am looking for more so for a cruiser. I am new to the Victories. Anything in particular I need to watch out for with the XR? I know the guy with the KP and the bike. The XR has about 10k miles on it. What is the average life of the tires, belt ect. It is pretty stock with only windshield and leather bags. so there is room for some personalization. Any upgrades recommended? Cost?
Test ride 'em all! Tires 8k-13K. Belt life, 30K recommended change. The Kingpin price point is most likely lower than a XR. I ride a Kingpin. My favorite ride of the new bikes was a XR, probably because it handled better than the XCT or Vision that had the extra fairing weight.

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I had 6k on my 2010 XR when I picked up two nails almost side by side on my rear tire so I put on a new one. I changed my front at 15k and just put on my second rear at 19k (so I got 13k out of it). I've also know people who get much more wear out of their tires as well as people who don't get as much.

Maintenance is EXTREMELY easy. Change the oil, lube the cable ends, and give it the once over every 2500 miles for a 2010. The 2011 on up had engine and transmission upgrades which extended the oil change to every 5k. 15k Victory recommends you change your fork oil and lube your steering head. Belts are recommended to be changed at 30k. Some do, others keep an eye on the belt and will change it when it looks worn.

One problem some have is the air filter is under the tank. Personally it's not that big of a deal. And that leads me to the biggest maintenance complaint I know of. The fuel pump is mounted on the bottom rear of the fuel tank. The fuel hose connects to a plastic nipple. If you are not careful putting the tank back on you can easily break the nipple off. Some have and repair it with a new metal nipple. Others have replaced the fuel pump, which as you can imagine is quite expensive.

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CR out handles the Pin. The CR will leave the pin in the corners... I will be selling the Pin since I like to go on fairly long rides. And the CR definitely outshines the Pin in that arena.
I'm sorry, I have to disagree.
For one thing, the Kingpin is THE most capable cruiser I have ever ridden (that's why I bought it). Granted, mine doesn't have the footboards and rolls on speed rated radials, but the chassis is imperturbable, the bike leans deeply, and remains neutral and predictable at all times. The harder you ride it, the better it works (we'll leave the motor out of it).

Secondly, I routinely ride this bike 500 to 600 miles a day without issue. Define 'fairly long rides'.

I would say the KP has all others out-gunned... all-day-every-day. Now, If I were doing 2-up riding... yes, the CR would be better.

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Your last bike was a Gold Wing and if your requirements are about the same, the XR will be the better match. I came from first generation Ventures and I find the XR a good fit and very capable for all types of riding from in-town errands to extended tours. One feature I enjoy is the removable windshield. Nice when the weather gets hot.

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Found a Cross Country in a town a few miles away. Went and looked at it. Didn't get to ride it cause of the rain but Boy did it feel good sittin on it! Nice bike but more than I want to spend. Think I'll make the drive to look at the XR. As I mentioned in my original post. The one I found has Arlan Ness ape hangers. Would I have to get all new control cables ect. to put the stock handle bars back on? Or are the apes just as comfortable?
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I have both. CR out handles the Pin . My Pin will smoke my Cr side by side. The CR will leave the pin in the corners though. Seat height is about the same. The Pin has a more raw motorcycle feel to me. The CR is more comfortable and tame feeling. I have been meaning to sell my Kingpin, but every time I ride it, it puts a big smile on my face. Tough decision for you. For me though, I will be selling the Pin since I like to go on fairly long rides. And the CR definitely outshines the Pin in that arena.
I have a hard time buying that. No disrespect intended. The KP is lighter, more nimble, more power and in my opinion, will leave the CR in the twisties or on any road for that matter.

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