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Default Want an XC...but have some questions first...plz help me decide

Hey all,
Been lurking for a few and registered the other day. Was hoping to ask these questions a few days ago, but just realized that I need to introduce myself here first before I can post in a specific forum.

I just got my first bike about a year ago. Went with a Yamaha Stryker. Its a decent bike, and very affordable, but realized pretty quickly that Id like a bagger. So I added a faring and bags to it, but its just not cutting it. Not a bad little bike, but I need something bigger, better, and more suited to road trips. When I was researching for that bike, I actually fell in love with the look of the Vics. But I didn't want to spend much until I got my feet wet so to speak.....so here we are.

Anyways, Im about the pull the trigger on a 14 XC gloss black or a 14 XC 8 Ball. Im having a hard time deciding which one though as Im getting a pretty good deal on either.

Im partial to the blacked out look of the 8 ball as opposed to the chrome of the XC, but don't want to regret not getting the cruise, ABS, and stereo down the road. Also the crash bars. When all is said and done, the XC is about $1300 more than the 8 ball as Im getting a better trade in from the dealer with the XC than the 8.

Are these options worth the $1300 in your opinion?
Ive heard of some issues with the CC not working....is that true?
How is the ABS?
Is the radio and upgraded speakers much better than whats supplied with the 8 ball?

Please help me decide!

Btw, after about 5-6 test rides, the only thing that I can say that HAS TO GO is that exhaust. What the heck is up with that? Sounds like a freaking Prius...haha. So it will be either the Slip on DD or the hole drilling method as first mod...for sure.

Now for the big question....and plz don't flame me for this....how do u all feel about spending 450 bucks a month for 4 years for something that u may only be able to use for 6 months a year....LOL. YIKES!!!

Big thanks for any and all suggestions guys. I look forward to hanging out here!!!
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Kilrbee, you are not going to like my answer to your last question, which is: Buy what you can write the check for and don't pay rent for a toy. If you have a go down that wads it, you will still owe the lender for both principle and interest.
A friend just yesterday bought a used XR with only 1700 miles on the clock and paid well below KBB price. Best of all, no $450/month payments. Multiply that out for the REAL cost of that bike. But if you are a high earner and the $450 is just pocket change to you, then go for it.
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Greetings and good luck with your decision. You may want to wait until after Sturgis to buy your new ride. Last year, I bought a 2013 XC after the announcement of the 2014 models at Sturgis. Dealer was willing to negotiate to get the '13's off his floor, Polaris had some great rebates and interest rates (if needed), and they offered an extended warranty for free. You only have another month or so to see what Polaris will do with the '14's after Sturgis.

For me the cruise and the stereo would be part of any bagger in the future that I was to purchase. As for the ABS system, I like it, but some don't so I think that is a preference. Really, you need to get what really trips your trigger. I got the XC, some on this forum will say that I should have got the XCT because of the value add of the goodies you get on that model versus mine. You can remove the trunk and you have an upgraded XC. I thought about it, but in the end, I really just wanted the XC. You need to figure out if the tunes and the cruise, along with ABS is worth $1,300 to you.

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Welcome Kirbee, hope to see pics of your finally choice sooner than later. Decisions right?
Cruise? Depends on what your riding is. I'm on the highway everyday commuting. Even in town I use it on traffic light sequencing early morning. I have a second bike with a thumb lock. If you think that will suffice, much cheaper but won't hold it in a grade. So your still on and off. Don't know what problems you heard but I think its a solid system. Steady with my buddy's gold wing I ride with every day.
Stereo? Never had one before and I like the option. Also adds options for gps and cb but doubt your looking for that right now.
Chrome over blackend. I love the looks of the 8 ball. Chrome takes more maint but I would assume the black has its dirt day requirements. Coin toos on looks. However, when I ride my vision it's always "what an interesting bike" or "what the heck is it". When I get the TC out (04 XC style) it's "wow, that is a clean ride". So I know the chrome speaks and as soon as they say it ain't a Harley I come back with hell no, I ride it all year!

Riding 6 months a year for 450 a month. RICZ and Scotch are both right. First wait till the fall. There are no "sweet" deals until the 15s are out. Vic has some good incentives. Also, buy what you can afford. Your not buying a bike to ride 6 months a year (you may find you start riding more unless it's roads the issue) but more over your improving your comfort and enjoyment on two wheels riding how it's intended. For the pleasure in it. You won't save any money, it's going to be a costly hobby with mods, always is, and at the end of the day you will have more tied up in it than it's worth But what fun doing it!

I can't seem to sell my TC because it's too much fun and it's paid for. While I do have a small payment on my vision, bought it in oct at a steal 5 sates away off the showroom. Saved enough to fly there and ride her back still substantial savings. Hope this helps with your decision, buy what you can afford, with what you want for 5 years from now. The mods will helps, take your time.

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Cruise control: once you've had it, I'm not sure you could live without it (at least I couldn't...makes those long slab miles a lot easier). You could have it added to the 8-Ball, but it'll cost ya. If your heart's set on the blacked-out look, maybe the cost is worth it for you. But the cost of adding those options later will be considerably more than $1300, unless you can do it yourself. I'd get the regular model and you'll have all the stuff from the get-go. I suppose it's possible to factory-order an 8-Ball with those options...might look into the cost of that.

ABS: My experience with the ABS is one instance on a rented XC just a couple months ago. It worked very nicely. That is all I have to offer on it tho...sorry!

I can offer no advice on the radio. It was kinda neat, I guess, but I barely used it on the rental bike as we were in mountains for most of the ride. It sounded okay when I did use it, tho.

Making payments is not something I've hesitated to do. I'm either a very young Gen-Xer or a very old Millennial, so admittedly I have a bit of an instant gratification complex. My XR is financed. My wife's Vegas was financed (until someone stole it and relieved me of that financial responsibility, I guess). My Vulcan 900 was financed. My wife's Shadow was financed. So clearly, I have no qualms letting the bank hold the title for a few years. As for cost vs. use: I live in southern Idaho. Winter starts in November, usually (first snow is around Thanksgiving typically) and holds on till March. We often get snow in April. The bikes are maybe stored for a total of 8 weeks out of the year, usually in December and January when daytime temps are often in the teens. In the case of a touring rig like a XC, you have lots of options to extend your riding season: heated grips, seat, hard lowers, taller windshields, etc. For me, it's worth every penny and if the weather's dry and the temp is above 40 degrees, chances are I'm riding.

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For me the radio was a big deal, I listen to radio everywhere I go, and cruise control is a nice feature and it definitely helps on long trips

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I have the radio and cruise control, though I barely use them. However, those few times I DO use them, I am very grateful I have them. I've been using the radio a lot more lately, playing music from my iPhone.



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Cruise control: once you've had it, I'm not sure you could live without it (at least I couldn't...makes those long slab miles a lot easier). You could have it added to the 8-Ball, but it'll cost ya. If your heart's set on the blacked-out look, maybe the cost is worth it for you. But the cost of adding those options later will be considerably more than $1300, unless you can do it yourself. I'd get the regular model and you'll have all the stuff from the get-go. I suppose it's possible to factory-order an 8-Ball with those options...might look into the cost of that.

ABS: My experience with the ABS is one instance on a rented XC just a couple months ago. It worked very nicely. That is all I have to offer on it tho...sorry!

I can offer no advice on the radio. It was kinda neat, I guess, but I barely used it on the rental bike as we were in mountains for most of the ride. It sounded okay when I did use it, tho.

Making payments is not something I've hesitated to do. I'm either a very young Gen-Xer or a very old Millennial, so admittedly I have a bit of an instant gratification complex. My XR is financed. My wife's Vegas was financed (until someone stole it and relieved me of that financial responsibility, I guess). My Vulcan 900 was financed. My wife's Shadow was financed. So clearly, I have no qualms letting the bank hold the title for a few years. As for cost vs. use: I live in southern Idaho. Winter starts in November, usually (first snow is around Thanksgiving typically) and holds on till March. We often get snow in April. The bikes are maybe stored for a total of 8 weeks out of the year, usually in December and January when daytime temps are often in the teens. In the case of a touring rig like a XC, you have lots of options to extend your riding season: heated grips, seat, hard lowers, taller windshields, etc. For me, it's worth every penny and if the weather's dry and the temp is above 40 degrees, chances are I'm riding.
Thought I saw you can't add cruise to an 8ball. I know I was talking to my vic dealer and he said it couldn't be done on a xc

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Hi,
I have an XC 8 ball 14. I read your post and wanted to add something.
When I tried to have Cruise put on mine after purchasing it I was told by several dealerships that I contacted that it could not be put on.
One called the factory on my behalf and the other had already called the factory for another customer and the factory insisted that cruise could not be put on the 8 ball.

Turns out that this is a myth and the factory seems to be wrong as crazy as that sounds. At least one rider here has put cruise on his bike that is not an 8 ball but a similar model X bike which comes with no ABS or cruise. same as the 8 ball. Apparently everything is there and it fits right up.

Because the factory is saying it can't be done you will have a hard time getting anyone to commit to installing cruise on an 8 ball.
Sales people aren't always aware of the misinformation and may tell you that it is an option that can be put on after purchase but when the parts people can't find a listing for the kit to fit an 8 ball and they call the factory to find out what's up, you may be told that though it was promised by sales they can't actually upgrade the bike to cruise control. Which is about what I went through.

Apparently there are some mechanics around who will mount a cruise kit on an 8 ball because they realize the factory is having a brain f*rt on this one, but none live in the part of the country that I live in.

That to say if you decide to get an 8 ball, and want cruise on it, get it in writing that they will install the cruise for you or will accept the bike back at their expense. Save yourself the headache and time spent figuring it all out later.

I highly recommend cruise if you are going to use the bike for interstate touring.

I ended up buying a cruise kit for my bike, but haven't had the time to install it. I wanted to buy it while it was available before it became obsolete. Down the road when I have time and the rear wheel off I will throw it on. Probably when I get tired of riding my new bike and can do without it for a while. When you get something new the last thing you want to do is take it apart especially in the middle of riding season and during the 1st year of warranty I want to ride as much as possible right now and be sure that nothing is going to fail.

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Thnx for the input guys.

Ive decided on the XC. I dontvwant to be cruising down the interstate in the middle of nowhere and thinking "man i wish i had cruise".
The radio is just nice to have i would think.
Hopefully ill never have to use the crash bars and ABS, but if i do need them, im sure i wont regret having them.
Thnx again.
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