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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 08-22-2014, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Greetings All,

I am in the market for a new bike and just went to a demo day today in Foxboro MA. I have been furiously reading many of your posts for the past few weeks. Extremely informative.

I am interested in a XCT. I don't want to overstep immediately with a bunch of questions (of which I have many) after riding a XC and XCT.

I just wanted to introduce myself and thank you in advance for any wisdom and guidance you can provide.

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Welcome from the left coast. We are here to help. Ask away.

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Ok, some observations from the demo rides.

Been riding a 2000 Honda Shadow 1100 all of its life. Had other Hondas as well. First time on larger bikes.

The XC, due to buffeting, as many people have mentioned, was a very unpleasant ride. My buddy took one out as well and experienced the same thing. I am 5'8" and he is about 6'. I could see doing a bunch of mods to work with the wind management as others have done. Once we got into the twisties, I was pleasantly surprised. Great center of gravity and I didn't have to fight the bike at all.

The XCT felt much better and where I am gravitating anyway. Really wanted the extra storage and comfort for the wife. Wind management was really better than I expected. Really nice doing 70. No buffeting at all. The trunk was unnoticeable really. I couldn't really tell a difference when riding between the XC and XCT, except for wind of course. Riding on the back roads was better than expected. I thought I would feel like I was on a monstrosity but again the twisties were quite fun.

ok, the questions... 2 things really turned me off about he XCT. The front suspension was pretty hard/tight. I didn't expect this from a touring bike. Do you think this was just because it was brand new? My Shadow actually takes bumps much better in the front. Was a bit surprised by this.

Secondly, the hard lower fairing made all kinds of "cheap plastic rattle" noises when I did hit those bumps. After doing some reading last night, it sounds like a fact finding mission and putting some sort of appropriate dampening wherever the noises are coming from. For $20k, this just really shocked me. I certainly would want that to be resolved. Has anyone else experienced this?

I plan to rent one for the day and take the wife for a nice long ride. At this point, I think it is a must.

Thanks for any insight.
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I was going to say ask away, but broggy beat me to it. To your questions.
I haven't noticed any rattling on mine unless the bumps were pretty large or sharp. It seems quieter than the last 3 very respectable tourers I had, so perhaps you are hitting some big potholes or it just is a loud one that needs some tightening up, or just aren't used to hearing one with a lot of plasic, hard to say.
The front suspension. Well after a Goldwing it was a pleasure. Honda seems to make the suspension soft and then put anti dive vales in some of them to stop the front from overloading in a stop. Not sure how the Shadow plays in to the equation.
The suspension seems to me to be tuned well for the bike. I guess there could have been a mechanical fault to what you felt but would lean to it isn't what you are used to.
Make sure your suspension is set properly for you long 2-up test ride. Err on the side of being heavy. After some time on it you'll appreciate the suspension (like in those twisties you talked about) and the adjustable rear will make momma happy, so will the luggage space and weight rating. She can carry "stuff" on a trip. LOL

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Thanks.

Yes I am going to make sure they set the rear shock pressure to the factory recommendation when I take the wife. That really is going to be the true test for the bike. I will admit the Shadow has not great rear suspension and why she doesn't enjoy riding with me. Bumps go right to her kidneys. She does have her own bike but will not take long trips with it which is why I need a touring bike that is comfortable for her. I am hoping the rear shock is up to the test.

Hopefully, the bike I rent will show some improvement with the lower fairing noises as well.
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When airing up the shock, don't just add your body weights and look at the scale in the right case lid. You'll be surprised how much your riding gear weighs, especially if you are ATGATT, like me. Then there's the weight of the stuff in the cases to consider.
Renting is a fantastic idea. Do that and report back to us how that went. How the bike handles the twisties is one of the main things that captured me.

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I rode a CCT last week at the demo rides at my dealer . I pounded over train tracks and washboard on the road and nary a peep from the CCT . In fact after being used to the way my Hammer rides I couldn't believe how plush and comfy the bike was on rough terrain. I felt like I was in Lincolns finest Town Car . You may have been on a bike that needed a bit of going over , that's all . Two of the CC's I rode had less then 20Mi. on them when I got on it . Don't even know if they received the proper prep or not .

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Thanks for the replies. I am starting to think they had a spare key in one of the compartments. It was that noticeable.

As far as the front suspension, you guys are pleased with the performance?

One other thing that I am worried about is that heat of the engine. Again the demo rides are so short, you don't have much time. Half way through my demo the seat was getting warm. I never looked to see if the seat heater was on or if it was coming from the engine.

I will figure all that out during the rental. A nice 24 hours should answer all the questions.
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On hot days, when running city errands, my saddle gets very warm at stop lights. Thinking of adding that heat reflector material to the under side. Legs are OK cuz I always wear 11" boots with riding sox taller than the boots and jeans or my Kevlar lined riding pants.

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