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I have been away from bikes for 20+ years. I am confused with Indian bikes in the 2011-2013 years. I know Polaris took over in 2011. But I still hear bikes from 2011-2013 being called Kings Mountain bikes. Are these leftovers from NC? Did Polaris produce any Indians in Iowa before Aug. 2013?

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All assembled out of KM stock.

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yes there old models. Some have S&S motors and some have the Indian try to make called pop cap motors. If your going to spend money on one of them Don't they were poorly made

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Big thx. Was wondering about picking up one. Think I'll sit and see what comes up with a floor board kit and such for the 2014. Won't be long till I can sit on a new Chief.

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Big thx. Was wondering about picking up one. Think I'll sit and see what comes up with a floor board kit and such for the 2014. Won't be long till I can sit on a new Chief.
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@ POP & VISIONJOHNNY... actually you are both misinformed... the entire assembly line was dismantled at Kings Mountain, moved to Spirit Lake and reassembled exactly as it was. Production was continued as a team build system all by hand, and the quality and finish is probably one of the best in the business.

Each year had it's specific production numbers and one year were not "leftovers" from the previous... but each year was remarkably not changed all that much from one to the next.

The last bikes hand assembled at the Spirit Lake facility were of the Kings Mountain variety Vintage Chief FE's (Final Editions) and there were 25 of them made... I know... I have #7 of the 25.

It's a fine running bike made in the fashion of the old time motorcycles... has its own designed "bottle cap" engine and a Baker 6 speed tranny. Too bad it doesn't have a carb... but that's another story.

It ride is rougher and tougher than the Vic's... and when I go on long rides, I ride my Vision... much more comfortable and roomier. But nothing says motorcycle like an old fashioned Indian... I guess they just don't build the motorcycle riders themselves like they used to 50 years ago...LOL.

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Howard, You say potato and I say spud.
First, congrats on owning a final run product. Beautiful machine.
If you take a machine that manufactures a part and move it from Comesay to Comesah and make the same thing with that machine, call it whatever you want. I'm sticking with my assessment.
I don't dispute that yours and others were assembled in IA or that the assembly was done with great care. I say that the stock is out of the sources KM had in-house or contracted. Part of a buyout, often a contentious part, is transfer of obligation. Polaris has a bank of ambulance chasers but I don' t recall them using any overt means to divest Polaris of the obligations KM had in place. Maybe, but if so they did a pretty good job of keeping it on the down low. Maybe the sale was dated at a time that minimized outstanding obligation. Even then, so many obligations in a modern manufacturing company I can' t imagine they could cover all the bases. And why would Polaris want to go in-house for stock? You buy the works and there are parts and you want to continue the legacy until you retool. Use the stuff. Don't reinvent the wheel while you are busy reinventing the wheel.
I am not nearly as familiar with what inventory Polaris got from KM as I am what inventory KM got from Gilroy but I am aware that Polaris sold off a significant amount of Gilroy tooling and castings that they acquired as part of the KM deal. That smells to me like a large cache of KM parts ended up in reserve at Spirit Lake. There may only have been 25 a year assembled to maintain continuity, but I bet there could have been more without Polaris having to shake trees for components.

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@ POP... you stated that "all" the model year 2011-2013 were made from KM parts... just not true unless said parts were part of the bikes design for the specified model and there was ample stock to build out those bikes. I know for a fact that Polaris went to their own vendors for some of the parts on these bikes... it was one of my disappointments with the FE.

All means All... not potato or spud.

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I guess then I will agree to disagree with you Howard. To do paraphrase Clinton it depends on what your definition of is is.

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