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I found this quote very interesting and wonder how Victory can be #2 in the world when they only sell about 10-15 thousand bikes per year. What am I missing?

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I found this quote very interesting and wonder how Victory can be #2 in the world when they only sell about 10-15 thousand bikes per year. What am I missing?
Who sells more 1700 cc bikes than Victory (besides HD)?
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Who sells more 1700 cc bikes than Victory (besides HD)?
I would think Honda for one. Most people don't even know what Victory is so I just find it hard to believe they are #2 in the world. Most of the world hasn't even heard of the brand.
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I would think Honda for one. Most people don't even know what Victory is so I just find it hard to believe they are #2 in the world. Most of the world hasn't even heard of the brand.





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The Victory/Indian scenario reminds me of growing up the older of two boys. My parents essentially experimented on me with heavy handed discipline, but learned to ease off with my brother who was 4.5 years younger than me.
The result was a laid back, rough at the edges me, while my brother was more sophisticated. The perfect analogy for Victory coming before Indian. The road tests of the preproduction Indians always mention things like the smoother tranny, not like the clunky Victorys.
So Polaris was heavy handed with Victory, but learned to produce a kinder, gentler Indians.

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The Victory/Indian scenario reminds me of growing up the older of two boys. My parents essentially experimented on me with heavy handed discipline, but learned to ease off with my brother who was 4.5 years younger than me.
The result was a laid back, rough at the edges me, while my brother was more sophisticated. The perfect analogy for Victory coming before Indian. The road tests of the preproduction Indians always mention things like the smoother tranny, not like the clunky Victorys.
So Polaris was heavy handed with Victory, but learned to produce a kinder, gentler Indians.
I would say; rides more like a Harley than a Vic. Power flattens out, and the bike tends to nose over above 2200 rpms. My Vic pulls hard all the way to the rev limiter.
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Bit of a different picture when all size bikes are accounted for.

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Bit of a different picture when all size bikes are accounted for.
True, but why get scored in a category that you're not participating in? That would be like comparing HD vs. Honda and counting cars and motorcycles.

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Bit of a different picture when all size bikes are accounted for.

Yeah, since we ride large bore, air cooled bikes, I kinda figured the graph I showed was relevant.

If you want to include a bazillion mopeds and scooters sold overseas, in addition to dirt bikes sold everywhere, then yeah, Harley isn't as dominant.

For our type of bikes, there is no comparison.

Trust me, I have no inclination to conclude that popularity equals superiority, but we were talking #2 in the large bore, air cooled croozer world. Polaris is by no means the 2nd most popular manufacturer of 2 wheeled motorized vehicles.

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