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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 05-11-2014, 10:44 AM Thread Starter
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I sold my 04 Kingpin and now have to get a new ride.
I have been set on the Indian Chieftain. I road the new street glide, the Chieftain, The XC. And one to three it would be,Indian, Vic, HD.
Here's another wrench tossed in to the mix.
I found a 2012 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited with 1000 miles on it for $18,000 USD
Now if money was not a factor ,throwing down $23,499 for the Indian would be the choice for me.
I have not yet taken a HD electra glide out on the road.
So those of you that have . And those that have rode the Indian Chieftain also. What would your thoughts be.
I know that it comes down to what is right for me. I would just like a little free back please
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If I was the guy selling the H-D the only way you would get to ride it is when you bought it and I would say no money back if you don't like it.
No I'm not a prick but I'm not going to let some one ride my bike and beat the crap out of it and then come back a hour later and say no thanks

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Did you read the post. I asked for opinion between the two motorcycles. If and when I want to test ride a HD ,I will go to the HD dealer and do so.
Do you have an an honest review ,Your own experience on the two bike.
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So your a tire kicker and only pretend your buying.
Step up to the plait and buy something.
Who cares what we like or want.
You want a Indian go buy one and be happy you did.
I didn't ask any one when I wanted a vision I went out and road five of then and bought one.
Do a search here and you can find all kinds of post of what guys think of there bikes.One in two thousand wish they never did.

Who are you to come here and ask questions and jump on my shit for telling you what I thought. You don't belong here

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Tire kicker you say.
Tuesday I am buying a new bike. If you have nothing to offer why do you open your pie whole and let shit fall out ... I hope the admin bans me form this site .
I wish that a person could post something on here with out some worthless piece of shit commenting on something that is not even relevant to the thread ...Have a nice day.
Dont bother commenting . Im gone
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faster92... I can give you my opinion...and that's all it is. I'm not an expert opinion giver. I'm a guy that's not into POWER or excessive SPEED. I love to ride, I love to travel and I love gadgets. I presently own a 2012 XCT that I purchased in October 2011. I have test rode a 2009 Ultra, 2010 and a 2011 Ultra. I have test rode a 2014 Indian Chieftain 2 times. So that is the extent of my expertise. Here are my observations in REVERSE order of preference.

Harley Ultra Classics - I have rode 3 years worth of these bikes. And while the test rides usually comprised of an 8-10 mile ride, each time I rode I was disappointed (and one these times is when I owned a 2009 Venture that was a BEAST).

Harley Ultra Classic
Pros - Lots of low end torque
Lots of colors
Lots of bling
Lots of options
Tradition
Cons - Hard riding
Uncomfortable ride, cramped (and I'm short).
Lots of vibration (some may like that, I don't)
Handling was only fair

2014 Indian Chieftain
Pros - Lots of low end torque (more than the Harley)
Tradition (and traditional colors)
Remote Locking Bags and Remote Start
Adjustable power windshield (that's a big one).
Blue Tooth and TPMS built in
More comfortable ride than the Harley
LOTS of gadgets on the bike
Cons - Still a little cramped
Better handling than the Harley, but not as good as the XCT
No touring trunk (I know, an Indian may not look good).
Vibration (not as bad as the HD), which effects the windshield.

Cross Country Tour
Pros - Handling, Handling, Handling
Proven engine reliability
More storage than any other touring bike in the market
LOTS of leg room
Room to grow with engine performance (for some)
Handling, Handling, Handling
Cons - No power windshield!
Hot in the box (Cockpit can get pretty toasty in the summer)
No tradition (yet).


Obviously, I am biased. I love my Vic. NO BIKE IS PERFECT. On any bike there will be pros and cons...it whatever pros fit you best and whatever cons you can learn to live with...for me, I'm a XCT fan all the way.

I am NOT interested in test riding another Harley...and I truly wanted to like, love, own an Indian. And I did LIKE the Indian, I just didn't love it and it didn't FIT my style of riding.

Now the rest is up to you...take in what everyone has to say and focus on some of those tips, points, pros and cons and PULL THE FRICKEN TRIGGER.

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Harley still has the same engine weaknesses they've had since 1999 with the advent of the Twin Cam motor. Small cam chain followers, although better now, a press fit crank than can twist, and a need to invest mega bucks to fix these weaknesses and increase the power, although better now at 103", to a level on par with Victory which just needs a few items to wake up and unleash the available power.

Hey, it's a Victory forum, of course I'm going to give a biased opinion.
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Just an old guy here with 6 decades of riding experience. I have owned my XR since March 2010, I have not ridden an Indian, but I have rented many Harleys. So I can't give you lots of tech advice--arkiebiker did a good job of that, I think. I have always bought the bike (or car) the works for me, regardless of what's trendy or what my buddies think and/or ride. I have never owned a Harley because I have rented them and they don't do the job for me. I keep vehicles for at least 10 years, so I have to make a wise decision at purchase time. I don't have the kind of money that allows me to make a mistake and trade it off in a year or two, taking a big depreciation hit. And I only buy that which I can write the check for, especially toys. But that's me, you need to decide which of these three bikes are going to work best for you. So spend wisely my friend.

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If you have to ask,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

If you like the HD, get it. If you haven't ridden an Ultra, don't compare A stock 12 to a stock 14. The 14 actually has some gumption, by comparison. HD did a good job of gearing, so you feel their "power". They feel stronger than the Vic in the low end, although I feel it is somewhat deceptive. Despite a lot of fluff from a lot of places, HD did a lot of things right. Some for the consumer, some for the MoCo.
Vic and Indian. Well, depends on how you want it dressed. Indian needs to be completed IMHO. Vision and XCT are already there. Indian has no track record right now.
I'll leave my opinion of Polaris Companies out of it. Not a HD fan either.
Ride it if you can and decide for yourself. Oh and ignore Johnny, works for me.

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Did you read the post. I asked for opinion between the two motorcycles. If and when I want to test ride a HD ,I will go to the HD dealer and do so.
Do you have an an honest review ,Your own experience on the two bike.
I have nothing substantial to add with bike shopping. Seems like the boys did a good job. But I can speak to internet ettiquette. You gave people less then 2 hours to reply to a very opinion based question. No finite response can come quickly from that. Sure Johnny didnt have anything to say. Who cares? Give it time. Its the internet. Youre going to get comments you dont want. Happens. This is actually a pretty decent forum for lack of trolls. Certain exceptions of course. You got what you wanted (hopefully). If its not something you want to hear (read) just ignore it. No sense getting butt hurt and running away. Probably ran to the HD dealership because of what VJ said. Silly...and Im probably ne of the younger punks on here. Just relax man.

Good luck with the hunt.


ps VJ I dont consider you a troll, just playing devils advocate for the sake of the OP.

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