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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-24-2013, 10:04 AM Thread Starter
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well, after running the tail of the dragon yesterday(half or more of it wet) I gotta say, it's no more impressive than wolf pen gap rd, hwy 19, and part of 60.
which is to say, the right half of the west loop of six gap.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the dragon's tail, it was fun, beautiful, challenging, etc....
but wolf pen gap rd is actually tighter turns and slower going on half of it. the next turn is closer and tighter it feels like on the lower half of hwy 60 from suches down to hwy 19.
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I think I'll make myself a new route for fun, it'll start at the 180 Diner on wolf pen gap rd at the bottom of the mountain where the roads starts to get straighter, then go up the mountain, make a right on hwy 19, head south to hwy 60 and make a right, then head to suches and u-turn and run the route backwards, stop off at the 180 Diner for a bite to eat, and then run right back up the mountain again to head towards home.
I'm gonna check the miles and count the turns, I bet we got a better dragon down here.
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I have to agree with your assessment of those roads Spider. We have friends who live on Hwy. 60 just north of Suches and have been there a few times. Did the Dragon just to say "been there done that" but other roads in northern Georgia are equal or bertter, plus less traffic and enforcement.
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I have to agree with your assessment of those roads Spider.
I would like to know where those roads are.

I would like to know what the OP means by "impressive."

I have spent a lot of time riding in Ky, Ga, Tn, WV, Oh, In, NC, Ar, Tx, BC, the west coast, and a good bit of the alps. DG is still my favorite bit of twisty ribbon to get silly on.

It can also be one of my least favorite places to ride.

Go on a sunny weekend afternoon day and you'll be there without me.

Go early on a weekday morning and you'll have to set your alarm to beat me there.

The fact that it's curvy or even densely curvy is not what makes it fab. The fact they they keep it well paved, and that there are no cross streets or driveways entering it, and that it has a variety of on and off camber corners, and great site lines, and plenty of elevation changes, and there is gas, food, and mechanical services nearby, and that the medics have a lot of practice patching up bikers there, are a few things that make it "impressive" to me.




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Certainly, there are more technical roads than the dragon.

Devil's triangle.
Hwy 16 to Tazewell (back of the dragon)
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Certainly, there are more technical roads than the dragon.

Devil's triangle.
Hwy 16 to Tazewell (back of the dragon)
......just a couple examples.
Where is this "Devil's triangle?" Are you referring to this little stretch of road up near the old prison?

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I stayed over in Eureka Springs and ran a pretty good piece of the surrounding area. I enjoyed it, but it surely wasn't terribly technical:





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Living in Florida enjoy all the good roads can get but usually don't see any until get to North GA .. While I rate the Dragon as a must and will ride it if in the area .. After having Done it several times is not critical to me anymore, but as another stated I start early on a weekday morning and let the idiots have the weekend afternoons .. Just my own opinion but I enjoyed the Ozarks More .. Look forward to going back ..

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well, I just ran six gap again, the west loop, to check mileages and such.
I agree on the Dragon, it's well paved and really no straightaways, just work work work...
lots of fun.
what I found out here locally, is if you start at the 180 Diner(180diner.com)(wolf pen gap rd(hwy 180)) and head north for 5.1 miles, turn right(south) on hwy 19 for 10 miles, you'll have about 15 miles and about 250-350 turns, I lost track what with traffic, fun, and all.
at that point, 129 separates from 19.
also, hwy 348 which runs between 180 and alt75, has an over 11 mile run in the twisties, don't know how many turns.

these roads are north central georgia, the dark green spot on most maps. hwy 60 runs from morganton to suches.
hwy 180 has a west side(west of hwy 19) and an east side(east of hwy 19).
west side is wolf pen gap rd. 180 sort of dog legs up 19 for about 3 miles.
if heading north on hwy 19 from atlanta, at first it's called Ga. 400. after that it's hwy 19.
after going through helen, ga, you'll pass hwy 60 on left, keep going and eventually find hwy 180 on left, then 3 more miles and hwy 180 on right.
if you make that right, go a couple of miles and turn right on 348.
http://www.tailofthedragonmaps.com/maps_nga.html
click on that, then click on any map names across the bottom, explore what you find, and you'll find a map of everthing.
moonshiners 28 run begins at it's north side right at the base of the Dragon, and runs 100 miles south, just follow hwy 28.
tail of the dragon is simply hwy 129 for the first 11 miles beginning at the tenn/nc border and heading north into tn.
right at the border there is where 28 connects to 129.
other runs are right in the area.
devil's triangle is just northwest of knoxville, tn.

check out this website, just click on whatever state you want, then on what part of the state, and it'll show you the roads, color coded for what they are, red means twisties, blue is long sweepers, green is scenic, etc...
http://www.motorcycleroads.us/index.html
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ok, I got it figured out. when I go to ride, this is the route I'll take.
directions from blairsville, ga:

head south on 19 till you get to 180 on your right(wolf pen gap rd). this is the start of the fun, run 5 miles down wolf pen, uturn at the 180 diner, 5 miles back up to 19, turn south(right).
10 miles south on 19 to where 19 and 129 split, uturn and 13 miles north to 180 on your right(east side of 19, the 180 that heads east to 75).
that's 33 miles of twisty so far.
now make that right turn on 180 heading east, a few miles down, go right(south) on 348. straight for 3 miles, then it's 11 miles of twisty. uturn at the bottom and head back up.
so that's 55 miles of twisty road with only about 6 miles of relative straightaway in between.
I'll see if I can make a map and get a picture up on here.

well, that's the good part of the run, it'll take me 15 miles of regular road to get to the starting point, then 15 back home. my fun run'll be about 90-100 miles with over half of it very very twisty. best $9 ever spent.
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