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My local Vic dealer tells me that i would get quite a bit more performance on my 06 Hammer by installing an S&S breather. I have slasher pipes that came on the bike. The install would be about $600.00 with a new flash card. I am told I would get considerably more horsepower and performance, though my bike has a K&K filter and what I believe is a stage one card.

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My local Vic dealer tells me that i would get quite a bit more performance on my 06 Hammer by installing an S&S breather. I have slasher pipes that came on the bike. The install would be about $600.00 with a new flash card. I am told I would get considerably more horsepower and performance, though my bike has a K&K filter and what I believe is a stage one card.
I have RPW slash pipes, should that make a difference to any reply posts.

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The S&S is worth a dozen HP.

Stage 1 was 81 HP. With RPW Slash pipes, the S&S, and a VFC my 2006 made 93 HP/105 TQ to the tire.

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either a cheap ness or fancier lloydz or S+S air cleaner will let your bike breathe, the K+N is a joke IMO way too small. my 13 hammer had one that came with the dealer tri-pro + dealer tune. seems expensive though, i installed my air cleaner in 2 hrs being fussy, a pro should take an hour or less, S+S is under $300 not sure about the tune card cost.
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either a cheap ness or fancier lloydz or S+S air cleaner will let your bike breathe, the K+N is a joke IMO way too small. my 13 hammer had one that came with the dealer tri-pro + dealer tune. seems expensive though, i installed my air cleaner in 2 hrs being fussy, a pro should take an hour or less, S+S is under $300 not sure about the tune card cost.
2 hours rodhotter!...getting the old airbox out was a bastard!...maybe I was being too careful though, took me and a friend a lot longer than 2 hours, more like five from taking the tank off to test riding it.
Shouldve got you to do mine! LOL!
having done it once now I could probably shorten that time tho I reckon.
Ness breathes well but downside is having to remove those 4 allen bolts 2 of which are difficult to access.
But the first big handful of throttle and its all worthwhile!

Lloyds ans S&S are both easier to clean , and the Torque Tubes evidently the ultimate.
like to see a dyno comparo between Ness, S&S, Lloydz, ans TT's, on a motor with pipes and timing wheel before I lash out the bucks for the TTs tho.

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My local Vic dealer tells me that i would get quite a bit more performance on my 06 Hammer by installing an S&S breather. I have slasher pipes that came on the bike. The install would be about $600.00 with a new flash card. I am told I would get considerably more horsepower and performance, though my bike has a K&K filter and what I believe is a stage one card.
does the $600 install include the price of the S&S part?

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I cut my factory airbox out with a cable saw , took an hour just to do that . I also made the mistake of doing it on a 100 degree day , no lie , I swear I lost half my body weight in sweat , a cable saw is fairly labor intensive for those that have never used one .... Took me about 4hrs start to finish , although it was my first time removing the tank and such .... All in all I'm glad I did it myself . I got my S&S at a local HD general repair shop for 275.00 , not a bad deal and the old timer there was a great guy to deal with too .

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I was wondering if those of you with the S&S airbox have any thoughts about how it works in the rain? I don't plan rides in the rain, they just happen sometimes. I'm planning on doing RPW Thor exhaust, S&S intake and the VFC III on my 04' Kingpin in the next month or so.

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I was wondering if those of you with the S&S airbox have any thoughts about how it works in the rain?
There will be no issues with riding in the rain. I have ridden in monsoon rains with these and no problems.


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I went to bike week last year , 120 mi ride one way . Torrential downpour the whole way home , I had the same question you do , but I didn't seem to have any problems . The only thing I noticed is at a stop , when idling the idle seemed a little "off" . I'm going to pull my filter in a couple weeks and give it a clean and a re-oiling ....

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