Do Aussies wear out tyres faster? - Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 07:21 AM Thread Starter
Lifetime Premium
 
Motorbikerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gold Coast, Australia.
Posts: 8,474
Garage
Default Do Aussies wear out tyres faster?

I'm beginning to think we do, or at least I do.
Tyre threads from US riders seem to get phenomenal mileage from their tyres.
Compared with what I get anyway.

Front Night Dragons done 12,800 kms (90 90 21)
Rear Metz marathon 880 at 7,000 kms (180 55 18)
both are now on wear indicators
My last Night Dragon rear I clocked up 10,000 kms on
my previous front Night Dragon got 11,697 kms
A rear D 417 Dunlop only got 11,000 kms
For the benefit of our Stateside readers 10,000 kms = 6000miles

What's the go?...are the roads here more abrasive?
or do we just ride harder?
or get inferior tyres?
I maintain my pressures at spec.
And my Vegas would be 50 kg lighter than a XR XC XCT.
Half my riding would be two up.

Victory Vegas 2010
Lloydz 109"cube big bore
" " 495 cams
" " TorqueTubes
" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
" " IAV
RPW Slash pipes
PCV
Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
114/123

Victory Cross Country 2010 (106)
Lloyds air filter
" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
Maximus
Both tuned by [email protected] Dyno
110/116

Gold Coast
Australia
Motorbikerx is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 09:15 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: nc
Posts: 156
Default depends on the bike and style of rider

I can't get more than 5000 miles on my rear and 10,000 on the front.
Tried Metz and Dunlops next is night dragon
I don't try to burn them up but seems that maybe the lite ass end lets them spin more ??

2013 HIGH BALL
heddonbaits is offline  
post #3 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 12:39 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 2,218
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorbikerx View Post
Tyre threads from US riders seem to get phenomenal mileage from their tyres.
Compared with what I get anyway.



What's the go?...are the roads here more abrasive?
or do we just ride harder?
or get inferior tyres?
I maintain my pressures at spec.
And my Vegas would be 50 kg lighter than a XR XC XCT.
Half my riding would be two up.
Aussie tires wearing quicker? You all laugh when you get the Emails of fat Americans. While you're replacing tires , we're spending that extra money on a Super sized Cheeseburger, fries and a milkshake to wash that down . Which is one of our secrets to high tire mileage.

The 3 things that are the major factors from my unscientific study are if you pack all the time, how you take off, and the road surface.

Anyone can improve their tire mileage by finding some ballast for the rear seat and for the front seat for that matter. If you want top mileage pick the portly girl not the super model to pack. But do pack. If the super model has a twin and they both fit, no brainer there. Motorcycle Tires slip to grip. 10- 15% I think.

Having more weight on the back lowers the slip and improves tire mileage. Got that gem years ago at the Dunlop site I think.

Since the tire is always slipping the roughness of the road surface is big . Where I am they resurface the road with course sealcoat. We run studded Ice tires in winter and it is the only thing that even has a chance of standing up to that. It's 5/8 crushed stone glued down with tar, then rolled flat. The course texture is almost like siplng the road instead of siping the tire and when it's new it works better on rainy days or mildly icy roads.
However it's like driving on a cheese grater or worse falling on a cheese grater when you go down. Hell on tires. You can't get the real high tire mileage numbers on this stuff no matter how dedicated you are.


Then if you like the feel of acceleration, your tire wears more accordingly. Harder acceleration, more slip, less tire life.
Down south where there is no snow or ice the roads don't get resurfaced as often. They are a lot smoother. That can help

Some of these guys are no light weights and then a lot of them pack constantly.
If the OL is, how do you say this delicately? Large boned and the guy isn't a spirited rider they are going to get some awesome tire mileage.

I'm lucky if I see 11000 miles out of a rear E3 on a hd w/bias ply.
I think I did that once. I generally run continentals tours. 130x16 about 8-10k miles. One guy I ride with 6K max. It doesn't matter what he puts on a bike. He has a thunder header on everything and he loves to hear that pipe sing. Doesn't go especially fast just is thin, rides alone, and loves to run it briskly through each gear.

So eat more, drink more and start looking like a person of Walmart. Find a girl that gives you shade in the summer, warmth in the winter and pack her everywhere. Then adjust your throttle cables so the throttle doesn't open as much and your there.

Or not. Long but hope it helps

presently owned bikes
2014 XC 8 ball that no longer stalls
1993 HD fxrp
1982 HD Sturgis
2009 Honda rebel
co owner
1991 gl1500 A w/ Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar.
"God works both good and evil in a mans' life and you deal with it as best you can" Somebody..

Last edited by Joe_; 11-04-2014 at 12:49 PM.
Joe_ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 12:41 PM
Pop
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Side of a mountain in New Hampshire
Posts: 1,208
Garage
Default

Simple enough. Our contact patch is on the opposite side of the tire from yours.

Red.
2012
Cross Country Tour.


We can't help it
We just keep moving
It's been that way since long ago
Since the stone age chasing the great herds
We mostly go where we have to go

That was written by James McMurtry
Pop is offline  
post #5 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 01:22 PM
Super Moderator
 
vindex1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 4,825
Default

Maybe because we have tires and you have tyres.

2015 Cross Country (bought new 7/11/15)
2015 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (bought new 4/26/17)
1/4 turn throttle ring
Tank riser
VM-1 DR cams
Timing wheel +4
Lloydz high-flow air cleaner
Bassani baffled OEM mufflers
PC-V 118hp 116tq
If it's not broke, make it better
vindex1963 is offline  
post #6 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 01:23 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
LILMAGS500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Peoples Republic of Massachusetts
Posts: 9,684
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vindex1963 View Post
Maybe because we have tires and you have tyres.

2014 Cross Country
2014 XC , Lloyds A/F , Timing Wheel +4 , PCV , Miller Mufflers , 1/4 Turn Throttle Ring , Dyno Tuned by KMC Powersports 98HP 113 TQ
LILMAGS500 is offline  
post #7 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 01:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Lostintexas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: East Texas
Posts: 784
Default

It's the air down there.

No telling. Usually the biggest tire use has a right wrist denominator. Throttle, braking and take off habits can all make a difference. We have some aggressive road surfaces that can fry an egg around these parts, so yes surfaces make a difference but shouldn't be that much. I get 10-12K miles out of a E3, but some claim only around 6000.

You have to pay to play, and more times than not the more grip a tire has, the less life it has. The trick is to find a happy medium.

Good Luck

Some people go their whole life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don't have that problem.~ Ronald Reagan

2012 XCT, AFR+ Gen 4, Lloydz air filter. I don't equate noise with power.
I ride with the Force.
Lostintexas is offline  
post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 01:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 2,218
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop View Post
Simple enough. Our contact patch is on the opposite side of the tire from yours.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vindex1963 View Post
Maybe because we have tires and you have tyres.
Man did I screw up I forgot about you being upside down and all.
You gaining weight and packing hefty heifers on the back of your bike will only make things worse. You could end up dragging the bike away from contact with the road entirely.

presently owned bikes
2014 XC 8 ball that no longer stalls
1993 HD fxrp
1982 HD Sturgis
2009 Honda rebel
co owner
1991 gl1500 A w/ Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar.
"God works both good and evil in a mans' life and you deal with it as best you can" Somebody..
Joe_ is offline  
post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 02:27 PM
Senior Member
 
DillPickle311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Clinton, Mississippi
Posts: 1,638
Default

Take off slowly. Make an effort to slow earlier at all signals. Always drive in a straight line instead of rocking back and forth like you aussies do because you're ADD. Wash bike including tire once a week to keep moisture content up in your TYRES. If you are riding to nowhere, make sure you take all shortcuts to get there. Ride on smooth flat surfaces if you have any flat surfaces down there. There is a tyre virus they eats rubber. Talking to your tires may help... like 'please live longer' and 'I love you my sweet little tyres'. Make sure the grooves in tyres are swept back like thy're blowing in the wind ----->
DillPickle311 is offline  
post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-04-2014, 02:37 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 2,218
Default

[QUOTE=DillPickle311;1206009Talking to your tires may help... like 'please live longer' and 'I love you my sweet little tyres'. Make sure the grooves in tyres are swept back like thy're blowing in the wind ----->[/QUOTE]

Dill I talk to my tires all the time and it hasn't seemed to help..
Maybe It is what I say to them that is the problem. Is it best to be empathetic and try to put yourself in their place or just to encourage them?? Generally I just yell obscenities at them when they slip on tar snakes? That is probably not the correct approach I would guess.

How about soaking them in beer at night? Perhaps they will be to wasted to remember to wear out?

presently owned bikes
2014 XC 8 ball that no longer stalls
1993 HD fxrp
1982 HD Sturgis
2009 Honda rebel
co owner
1991 gl1500 A w/ Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar.
"God works both good and evil in a mans' life and you deal with it as best you can" Somebody..
Joe_ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome