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You should read this thread ....

https://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=152561

Most of the info is there .... Including websites for finding this setup

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Thanks guys. It's do-able but expensive.
I am hoping to get a wreck, do it that way.. Otherwise a trade looms as that single disc up from just sometimes is not enough at speed. Had another "moment" today...
Oeps .... What brake pads are you using now ???

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@AfterDarker ...yeah mate what pads have you got as stock pads are not real flash under duress
I went to Lyndals Z-plus front and rear for more 'bite'
Wouldve gone to Lyndals Gold on the front but then I was running the skinny 90 90 21" front...whereas now Im running the fat 130 70 18 front Id have the traction to go to pads with even more bite.
Now my rear brake can be relied upon she pulls up fairly well using both brakes.
I'd still like to go twin disc though....oh make sure we are not bidding against each other when one comes up

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Was thinking if its feasilble to use a lh lower fork leg on the right side reversed.
Logistically the axle location would need to be same from either side.
Next time I got the front axle out Ill see if it can go in from the other side and be secure.
If it will then theres just the aesthetics of having one caliper behind the fork leg and the other in front! .. Could you live with that for better braking performance?
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Different lower legs as far as how the axle is held in place? The X bikes have to different lower legs one leg the axle screws into and the other leg holds the axles by pinch bolts.

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Different lower legs as far as how the axle is held in place? The X bikes have to different lower legs one leg the axle screws into and the other leg holds the axles by pinch bolts.
Vegas/Judge/Highball/Gunner/Jackpot all have axle pinchbolts on both sides.
As far as the X bikes come into the discussion well they don't really as they already have twin discs on USD forks.
We are tryna suss out ways of going twin disc cheaper than grafting on an entire Hammer S or XC front end.
On our bikes the axle doesn't actually screw into the lower leg in just slides in and the axle fastener screws into the axle from the opposite side. the pinch bolts on both sides secure the axle.
That's the best way I can describe it.
Thanks for your input Speedblue and others.
Keep them ideas coming as there's more that one way to skin a cat

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" " 495 cams
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Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
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" " VM1 Cams
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What makes you think you want dual discs? What do you think you will gain?

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better heat dissipation through two rotors, one would think, as well as a greater surface area of pad on rotor.
May or may not result in needing less pressure on the lever to stop.
My GPZ900R had twin front discs and it pulled up a helluva lot better than my Vic and from much higher speeds.
Have I missed anything?
well there's the visual aspect too but that's not of primary concern.

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" " 495 cams
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" " timing wheel @4 deg.
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" " IAV
RPW Slash pipes
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Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
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" " VM1 Cams
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What makes you think you want dual discs? What do you think you will gain?

Half crazy maybe you are fully crazy! I have a stage one on my Judge - an ECU chip from Lloydz, K&N air filter, 2 into 1 RPW Thor exhaust with minimal baffles, the thing goes quick, yet only one front disc, I tell you it doesn't stop too quick! I have a steel braided brake line and certainly new after market brake pads, I actually forget the brand EBC I think but was a specialist after market brand, best I could get according to wheel specialist that fitted it.

Put it this way I go riding with a bunch of guys on sport bikes, Ducatis, BMWs mainly and one guy on a HD Road King, they all have dual front discs except me and apart from the HD my bike is probably the f'ing heaviest, ie most mass and needs most stopping power. I mean a Ducati is 100 kg lighter than our Victories it will stop so much quicker than our tractors. I love the Victory torque love the motor, love the ride, but hate the f'ing brakes! So easy to lock up the back wheel, I have done that quite a few times. Of course 70% of braking is from the front.

Appreciate all the info being put on here, thanks guys, especially MBX mate, useful stuff to know.

But still, no one has seemed to have actually carried out a successful single to dual front brake conversion on any Victory single front disc model ... as far as I can see. Have I missed something? There are various suggestions, but no one seems to have actually done it.

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Guess you did not follow post #11 there is a link to a website

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/vic...t-2-90808.html

And there they've done it .... And a turbo charged member on this site did it too ....

The coolest way would be the 40 link
http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/produc...products_id=83
i send you before instead of the Jackpot to install the Hammer one ... Same price .... Only the hoses and calipers need extra ..... All in the link above mate ...

Yes agree with your post ... Compare to other victory or HD or other V-twin our single disks actually breaks shorter ...

But not compare to racers .... I'll look up a link that i posted before in brake distance in meters

EDIT, i could not find it but this info will do .... Victory is in the list
Brake distance in ft

http://www.svrider.com/forum/archive.../t-307050.html

Superbikes:
2011 BMW S1000RR: 129 ft
2011 Ducati 1198: 141 ft
2011 Honda CBR1000RR: 134 ft
2011 Suzuki GSXR-1000: 140 ft
2011 KTM RC8R: 135 ft
2011 Kawasaki ZX10R: 129 ft
2011 Yamaha R1: 137 ft

Supersports:
2011 Yamaha R6: 124 ft
2011 Honda CBR600RR: 126 ft
2011 Ducati 848 EVO: 127 ft
2011 Triumph 675R: 126 ft
2011 Suzuki GSXR-600: 122 ft

Other bikes:
2015 Harley Street 750: 152 ft
2011 Harley StreetGlide: 129 ft
2011 Star Stratoliner: 142 ft
2011 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero: 144 ft
2013 BMW R1200-RTP: 144 ft
2013 Harley Electra Glide: 144 ft
2010 Star Raider S: 124 ft
2010 Harley Softail Rocker C: 125 ft
2010 Victory Vegas Jackpot: 129 ft

OR

http://www.motorcycle-vermont.com/th...king-distance/

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