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Has anyone successfully changed an 18" Bias Ply tire on their Kingpin?!

I've changed rear 17" sport tires on my sport bike several times with zero problems using a harbor freight motorcycle tire changer with no mar tools. This Kingpin tire Dunlop D407 appears to be impossible to mount with my tools. I had no problem removing the D417 but getting the second bead over the rim is not happening! These bias plys simply do not stretch. Before I take the tire and wheel to a shop I thought I'd check with you! Very frustrating!

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don't what the temp is where your at but you could put it in the sun for a couple hours that will make it a little more flexible.
But the time spent heating up the tire you could go to the closest shop get it done and be home.
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Lots of lube, and elbow grease. I spent 35 bucks for a mount and balance

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I'm thinking a shop is my only option at this point. Don't want to risk marring the rim where the bead sits.
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Get someone to help you keep the opposite side of the tire into the recessed area of the rim.


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Trying to remember a trick I used. Ratchet straps I think it was. Around the tire tread and bead, to pinch the beads together.

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Get someone to help you keep the opposite side of the tire into the recessed area of the rim.
I'm thinking that would definitely help.

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Trying to remember a trick I used. Ratchet straps I think it was. Around the tire tread and bead, to pinch the beads together.
I was thinking something like that might help, just not sure how you would get your strap out once the tire seats.

Before I take the wheel and tire to a shop I'm going to try 3 things:

1. leave the tire in the sun for a few hours and try it when it's hot
2. Built a square spacer box out of 2x4 to keep the brake disc off the ground so I can try this on the ground. My wheel holder is actually pushing the tire up from the bottom, making it more difficult to get the beads into the recessed area of the rim.
3. Once on the ground use either a 250 lb friend to stand on the tire on the opposite end to compress it into the recessed area or try to use ratcheting straps to compress the beads together.

Again, unless you have held a 180/55/B18 D407 in your hands you cannot appreciate how stiff it is. At least 2 times stiffer than equal sized radial tires. I layed it on it's side on the pavement and jumped on it with my 150 lbs and the beads only compressed about 1"!

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Search on YouTube. It was tie wraps, then there is another video I saw, he used tire irons on a sporty bike tire. Also video on balancing at home if you don't use dynabeads

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