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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-10-2012, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
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Default What does the stock airbox look like???

Under the black plastic? I'm not sold on the look of the Lloydz...something just doesn't look right to me....does the stock setup look the same??? Thanks guys!!!! I love this site but it needs more action!!!! lol...

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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I have an S&S high flow airbox on my 05ImageUploadedByMO Free1342109928.143056.jpg


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Here was mine
during and after. Thought I had one with the tubes installed without the tank on, but guess I don't
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I guess what I'm asking is, would it be insightly to remove the black plastic covers and open up the neck of the bike while retaining the stock filter set up under the tank??? Thanks!

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The best you are going to do with the stock airbox is drill holes (ahead of the filter!) in the opposite side from the access panel and drill some holes in the front of the airbox.

The issue with the stock airbox is two-fold. 1) The panel filter is too small (not enough surface area) and 2) The tubes in the airbox are too small in diameter. It's simply too restrictive to produce more than a certain level of performance. Even if you perforate the crap out of it, it can only provide so much airflow. It is designed to be as much of an intake silencer as it is a source of air.

Airboxes like the S&S and the Lloydz (very similar) airbox are a trade off... losing a bit of low end torque in exchange for more overall airflow. These airboxes are worth about a dozen more HP than the stock airbox can give you. Rolling the throttle on rather than smacking it open, keeping the air velocity as high as possible, will give the best acceleration and minimize the loss of intake velocity at low RPM (manually acting like a CV carb or an old vacuum secondary 4-BBL carburetor).

The Torque Tubes give both increased airflow AND increased air velocity, which will give the engine more oomph from idle to the rev limiter. Peak HP increases may only be 2 HP... but overall area under the curves will increase substantially. The road "sees" your engines power over time and distance. Even a gain of 4 ft-lbs of torque from idle to rev limiter will make a major change in the bike's acceleration over time and distance.

As an example: My friends bike and mine are only 3 tenth of a second apart in a 1/4 mile drag race (8 HP)... But my torque is stronger across the tach and especially below 3500 rpm... so out on the road the acceleration difference is much more noticable. My bike accelerates with more authority from any rpm/road speed than the difference in our peak HP would indicate.

While the S&S airbox is very good, the Torque Tube airbox is better overall. There are still trade-offs with how the sensors are placed and how the crankcase vent system works (and you can smell the crankcase fumes when you're stopped and the oil mist makes a mess)... so the TTI is more toward a race piece than an airbox like the S&S where the sensors and crankcase vent work pretty much as they do in the stock airbox.

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My filter is a K&N with the stock setup..put in when I upgraded the exhaust from purchase. I'm not unhappy with the performance of the bike as is..I'd just like to clean up the area a bit....maybe drilling holes will work with the K&N? but again, I'm think looks at this point..

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Go to polarisind.com this will allow you to look at every part on your bike in a exploded detail view.

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Heres a pic of my bike with the S&S intake installed. The kit plus the fuel controller and dyno tuning wasn't cheep but the results (both aesthetic and performance) were worth it in my opinion.

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