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Default New to Victory...Need exhaust.

So i just picked up an 08 Vegas premium. This is my 2nd vegas, as i had an 04 for about 6 months before i had to sell it to buy a house.

So this bike came with the stock pipes on it. I searched around but couldn't seem to find an tutorials about exhaust replacement.

What do i need to know...What is a stage 1 kit? Do i need to have it re-mapped? do i need a new air filter?

I just want a little more throttle response and a better sound.

if there is an exhaust tutorial link here by all means let me know.

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.What is a stage 1 kit? Do i need to have it re-mapped? do i need a new air filter?

I just want a little more throttle response and a better sound.
My 2 bits:
A stage 1 is generally exhaust and better intake. I would steer you away from the Vic factory stage 1 stuff as there are many other better alternatives available. These bikes are very lean from the factory, so even a stock Vic would benefit greatly from a proper dyno tune.
Adding any after market exhaust necessitates a fuel controller. If the only performance upgrade you're ever going to do to your ride is exhaust, I would recommend the VFC III as it's user friendly, not too expensive and while limited in it's tuning "precise-ness" will allow you to eliminate the lean condition inherent in our Vics.
However, if you see yourself at any point in the future adding an aftermarket intake (Lloydz, S & S, Torque Tubes...), cams, etc. the VFC ain't gonna be the fuel controller of choice.

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My 2 bits:
A stage 1 is generally exhaust and better intake. I would steer you away from the Vic factory stage 1 stuff as there are many other better alternatives available. These bikes are very lean from the factory, so even a stock Vic would benefit greatly from a proper dyno tune.
Adding any after market exhaust necessitates a fuel controller. If the only performance upgrade you're ever going to do to your ride is exhaust, I would recommend the VFC III as it's user friendly, not too expensive and while limited in it's tuning "precise-ness" will allow you to eliminate the lean condition inherent in our Vics.
However, if you see yourself at any point in the future adding an aftermarket intake (Lloydz, S & S, Torque Tubes...), cams, etc. the VFC ain't gonna be the fuel controller of choice.
My 04, had a "stage 1 kit" installed when i bought it, the sound was pretty good and it was a little snappy...So if i get a fuel controller where can i find maps for it? Again anyplace on this forum to download?

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If you get a tuner from Lloydz he'll give you a map tailored to your set up.

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If you get a tuner from Lloydz he'll give you a map tailored to your set up.
So this lloydz you speak of...does he or anyone else sell upgrade kits? One stop shop? tuner exhaust, intake packages with a tune? is he on the forum or just go to his website...is it lloyds motorworks.com

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All things performance for Vics: http://www.lloydz.com/default.asp Give their shop a call and they'll be more than happy to give you options. No, they don't offer any packages, per se.

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There are lots of exhaust options. Hackers, Bassani, RPW, Freedom Performance etc... From what I understand as said above the Vic exhausts are not worth the money. A 2 into 1 system will apparently make the most power. Its all in your preference but do your research as some exhaust systems will require you to cut the frame and others won't. A tuner is essential with an exhaust upgrade. The lloyds tuner is made by Dobeck and there are others with the same tuner under a different name, however they all have a different base tune. The Power Commander 5 is more expensive but allows you to tune more parameters including ignition timing above 2500 rpm I believe. You are also going to want to upgrade your intake with at least a better air filter. I just ordered exhaust, fuel controller and air filter for mine. Enjoy your ride.

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How far are you from Westerly, RI?
This is the place for go to get the bike right:
http://www.kmcpowersports.com/about-kmc
They will design a package, and you can make an appointment where they will provide everything and install/tune while you wait.

This is the intake to get:
http://www.lloydz.com/store/item_vie...itemid=1000085

This is the Fuel control to get:
http://www.lloydz.com/store/item_vie...itemid=1000059

you will want one of these:
http://www.lloydz.com/store/item_vie...itemid=1000125

and these are always an option:
http://www.lloydz.com/store/item_vie...itemid=1000025

When installing the new exhaust you MUST use new exhaust gaskets at the header connections. Exhaust:
http://rpwusa.net/product-category/victory/
http://www.bassani.com/new_products/4/
http://www.conquestcustoms.com/exhaustpipes.aspx
http://www.hackercustomexhaust.com/products/victory.php

Of course all this will lead here....
http://www.lloydz.com/store/item_vie...itemid=1000033

The first thing you will need is a second job....

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The first thing you will need is a second job....
HC, you trying to scare away the new guy?

Bottom line is how much performance do you want and how much are you willing to spend to get it? "You gotta pay if you wanna play."

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HC, you trying to scare away the new guy?

Bottom line is how much performance do you want and how much are you willing to spend to get it? "You gotta pay if you wanna play."
Nah, I have been riding for 15 years this is nothing new to me. I rode sport bikes for most of it so dealing with FI programmers exhaust and intakes is nothing new to me...

SO back to the plan. This all unfolded today...

This morning.
I talk to Lloydz. he breaks down the how and why.

I message the original owner, he explains the bike is all setup for a stage 1 victory kit, he just converted back to stock pipes for sound reasons bothering his ear (tinnitus)

So now I realize I can save a little money and look around for some used Victory stage 1 pipes.

Search everywhere, local dealer wants $1100 for a whole kit they won't break up a the kit.

I check ebay for some "swept/slash" style.

I find some as a buy it now for $749. I call them directly, already sold.

However he had a set of Victory shot guns brand new for $649. so I bought them.

Should be here by next week. This will get me the sound I want for this season at least.

This winter I think I will swap out to a lloydz air box and PCV.
This will get

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