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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-12-2012, 05:59 AM Thread Starter
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i have an 07 vegas that takes atleast 10 minutes before i can ride it. just wondering if this is normal for these bikes or if its a tuning problem.
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There is something not right... the bike should be rideable immediately upon starting... top performance can be expected in a relatively short time as well.

Sounds like a tuning problem, but would need a more detailed description of what happens when you start the bike and then go to riding.

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okay so heres goes i have rpw slash pipes torque tubes and vfc 111. in the moring 60 degress or so i do full chokepull it out of the garage walk back lock up about 2 mins.. put the choke at half take the dog out about 5 mins... shut choke off lock up house grab my stuff about 3 or 4 minutes.... rev it alittle bit and it dies... i have the half choke it rev for alittle bit longer and even that isnt enough sometimes as soon as i drop it into first it dies. idk if its something im doing a tuning issue or something else. once it gets running it goes great with no popping or anything
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even after riding it for a couple hours if its off for more then 10 mins or so i have the same problem just not as bad
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What year and model bike do you have?
The "choke" you refer to, is actually just a fast idle lever.At least it is on my Pin.

If it is an open loop bike, you may have dirty throttle bodies. The later models have a different bypass system, so the throttle bodies don't get dirty like the old ones.

How many miles on your plugs? Is your air filter clean?

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Yup....it is a fast idle and not a choke. Your bike is set up WAY to rich on the bottom, and it is made worse when the ECM is in enrichment cycl

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I'm with KevinX on this one... they are not "chokes" they are "enrichers". Chokes control air flow... enrichers control fuel flow. Once you have started a bike with an enricher, you should close the enricher to half way... and when you take off close the enricher all the way and use the throttle to control fuel flow and idle... if you can do this then you will no longer have an enrichment problem. As Kevinx said, you are WAY over rich on start up... I'll give good odds that your plugs are fouled and your throttle bodies need a good cleaning. Do not despair... this problem has an easy fix and hasn't really damaged anything on the bike. Just clean your fuel and ignition systems and learn a new and proper way to use the enricher.

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well lets get this out there by no means am i a mechanic... how would i correct this? through the vfc i assume?
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I'm with KevinX on this one... they are not "chokes" they are "enrichers". Chokes control air flow... enrichers control fuel flow. Once you have started a bike with an enricher, you should close the enricher to half way... and when you take off close the enricher all the way and use the throttle to control fuel flow and idle... if you can do this then you will no longer have an enrichment problem. As Kevinx said, you are WAY over rich on start up... I'll give good odds that your plugs are fouled and your throttle bodies need a good cleaning. Do not despair... this problem has an easy fix and hasn't really damaged anything on the bike. Just clean your fuel and ignition systems and learn a new and proper way to use the enricher.
The lever has nothing to do with mixture. It simply turns the throttle bail to raise idle. Enrichment is automatic based on engine temp, and run time. All controlled though the ECM.

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well lets get this out there by no means am i a mechanic... how would i correct this? through the vfc i assume?
Yes. Sounds like you have the green set to high.

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