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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-21-2017, 06:22 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 2012 Vegas with factory stage1 (exhaust and filter) and Lloydz timing wheel at +4 setting. I was thinking what will be the next best upgrade
- Torque tubes Intake
- Cams

Which should be the next upgrade between the 2 for bang for buck and do I need a PCV with either of the upgrades?

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yes do both and of coarse a PCV and dyno tune

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@fak005 I think cams would give you the bast bang for your buck, even with only the stage 1 air filter. Yes you will absolutely need some type of fuel controller and tuning if you do cams(or torque tubes or both...)

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Yeah do the lot if you can afford it,
If you're anything like me then you'll end up with the lot anyway!
Just a question of in what order......
I did Torquetubes first, and a PCV.
You're gonna end up getting a PCV anyway.
You'll probably find your "stage 1" pipes cheat you out of power whichever way you progress.
I ended up going to RPW pipes last through my own pig 🐷 headedness, also I had Freedom Performance Slash pipes on the bike when I bought it.
As it turned out some bad luck when a big dog rammed my front wheel sending the bike down the road in its lhs shearing off the gear selector and caused internal gearbox issues.
So while the bike was off the road and down for repairs I bit the bullet, sold one of my vintage cars and ploughed the money into big bore and cams.
Turning a negative situation into a positive one.
There's no substitute for big cubes and. 495 cams!
But they must me able to breathe in and out via Torquetubes and good exhaust.
Most of us are dictated to by the dollar on how far we go and in what order.
I sort of went the wrong way about things but in the end luck, fate, and a crash steered my build.
If not for the crash I doubt I would've gone for the cubes and cams.
But I tell you what....I'm damn glad I did!
Your financial position will dictate where you go and in what order.
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Thank you all for the response. What do you think will be better VM1-DR or LSC cams?
Also Lloydz tuner or PVC 5?

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PC-V and VM1-DR. You will get a nice roll-on with these. Might as well get the Torque Tubes too so you don't have to get it tuned twice.

Are the other ones Crane cams?
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Thank you all for the response. What do you think will be better VM1-DR or LSC cams?
Also Lloydz tuner or PVC 5?

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Lloydz HOH. 495 cams in steel frame, cam carriers will need to be clearance to get em in.
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" " 495 cams
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" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
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Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
114/123

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Lloyds air filter
" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
Maximus
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Thank you all for the response. What do you think will be better VM1-DR or LSC cams?
Also Lloydz tuner or PVC 5?

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This was a choice I had to make.....The LSC cams are ground to peak power lower in the rpms vs. the DR1's. After reading all I could and talking with a buddy using the DR1's, then finding the DR1's for $90 less than the LSC's. The DR1's went in.
I have absolutely no regrets I gained 21hp and 3 lbs tq, and a more lumpy, throaty sound.... In "normal" riding I feel no loss of low end(its the opposite actually, there's more power in all the rpm's I ride in) but when I want to accelerate, especially passing, this cammed engine pulls much harder and longer(right up to 5500 rpms)...I love it.
PC-V all the way
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DR1 seem to be the best for steel frames. I love mine. The Torque Tubes in my opinion? You won't find anything close to those regardless of the hype and BS being disseminated around the forums on other intakes.

If you want to start smaller with the cams...I have a [email protected] I'll sell cheap for the 106 that works decently with those cams. Its good in the mid to upper ranges, but a tad doggish on the low end with more open pipes. Depends on how you ride.

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