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|01-01-2018 08:15 AM|
|jgspidey||dude thanks for the breakdown your post is the whole reason I joined this site!|
|12-28-2017 09:45 PM|
Originally Posted by jgspidey View Post
Here's my .02 centavos. All 3 are what we call a "steel frame" Victory which would include pretty much any Victory made between 2005-present not including the X-bikes and Vision's. Vegas was first made in 2003 and the Kingpin (KP) was started in 2004 but the older style was made all the way into 2004 which is why I worded it the way I did so now you have some history.
In 2008 all Vic's switched over to what they call a closed loop system which means the computer not only read the sensors of how warm the motor was; it read the sensors in the exhaust pipes telling it how rich or lean the motor was running and adjusted accordingly. Up till then they used a fast idle lever on the handlebars to kick up the rpm's until the motor warmed up but with the closed loop system the computer was able to control that so the fast idle lever which some people think of as a choke was eliminated.
Not coincidentally this is the year the space age looking Vision was introduced and changed the Victory image forever. It may have been a good thing or not so good depending on the person's perspective. I think it was a good thing but I tend to be an out of the box thinker most times and like things that reach outside the norm.
The point is all 3 of the bikes you're looking at are closed loop modern designed engines and electronics. The 8 Ball is the plain jane pure black lowest cost in that line bike. That doesn't make it cheap or bad; the idea was to allow the owner to customize it without having to buy all the fancy paint and chrome if they intended to change it out anyway or go with a more simplistic look if that's what they had in mind; again without having to first pay for stuff they were going to get rid of anyway.
Moving on; the Vegas is a tried and true favorite. It's brother, the Jackpot has a bit different back end with a fat rear tire which I personally like but there are some handling issues with a fat back tire and the skinny front tire and the front tire, just like on the regular Vegas, tends to track in the grooves more and wear out faster. I've had a JP but never a Vegas but I have had 2 KP's.
My personal preference is the Kingpin because it has a 4" travel rear shock (verses the 3" on the Vegas), inverted front forks, and an 18" by 130 wide tire on the front (verses a 21" by 90 wide on a Vegas) for better handling and longer tire wear. Let me say that again; this is MY personal preference. Many people will have a different preference.
In a perfect world my stable would include a Vision, Jackpot, Kingpin, XC (Cross Country), and XR (Cross Road). I settled for and do well with the XC and KP.
I guess the moral of this story is no one can tell you which one is best - for you - you have to make that decision.
Here is a site which will allow you to compare models which may help you decide.
Good luck and happy hunting.
|12-28-2017 08:28 PM|
Vics get better with racking up miles. I didn't feel mine was broke in fully until I hit 20K.
When Vic was killed I ran out and bought a 08 Vision to pair with my 13. It had 12,100 miles and I'm sure it will get better as the miles add up like my 13 did.
|12-28-2017 08:15 PM|
|olddad64||Buy what you like. Ride them first and give them a good loooong test ride to see which one you like best. You'll love the handling of a Victory ..The 20,000 miles for a 2008 isn't but a little over 2,000 miles a year and that ain't much in my opinion. These Victory bikes are made for the long haul and will hold up fine if you take care of them. If you have any doubts about the bike then take it to a dealer and let them check it out first BEFORE you put your money down.... I've had Harleys and my Victory CCT will run circles around any of them big Harley's. Just one mans opinion.....|
|12-28-2017 08:13 PM|
|PaiN||An 08 Vic with less than 6k miles is as baby as a baby can get.....Grab the bike, its about time someone broke that thing in. Seriously, I'm not joking.|
|12-28-2017 05:42 PM|
Looking For Advice
Hey guys I'm looking for someone to help me out. I really want a Victory bike and I'm looking at three two 2008 Vegas and one 2008 Kingpin 8-ball. Was looking for some advice. This will be my first "big boy" bike and I don't want to regret it. I know all bikes can break down if they are not cared for. Anything with any of these models i should look for or be concerned about. The three bikes I'm looking at have very low mileage no more than 6k, but is buying one with 20k ok? Forgive me I just don't know enough about Victory bikes. Thank you for your help in advance!