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Hi All,
I just had my dealer install 50-state 2:1 Victory Performance pipes on my new Hammer S. (49ers are no longer available; thx. Californicators!)

I was curious if THREE hours labor sounded right to you?

Looking the job over, I see that I have a leak from the head pipe onto the outside of the muffler at 2 o'clock--right where your eyes focus on the pipe! And behind that, there are TWO screw radiator hose clamps.

I am going to swing by there this afternoon, after it gets past 50F, but this does not seem like their typical level of work.

Any idea what is going on here?
 

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Hi All,
I just had my dealer install 50-state 2:1 Victory Performance pipes on my new Hammer S. (49ers are no longer available; thx. Californicators!)

I was curious if THREE hours labor sounded right to you?

Looking the job over, I see that I have a leak from the head pipe onto the outside of the muffler at 2 o'clock--right where your eyes focus on the pipe! And behind that, there are TWO screw radiator hose clamps.

I am going to swing by there this afternoon, after it gets past 50F, but this does not seem like their typical level of work.

Any idea what is going on here?
I'm no motorcycle mechanic, but I can swap out a set of pipes in my backyard without a lift in less than that! Sounds you are paying for a couple of cigarette and bathroom breaks!
 

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I'm no motorcycle mechanic, but I can swap out a set of pipes in my backyard without a lift in less than that! Sounds you are paying for a couple of cigarette and bathroom breaks!
Well, you may or may not have to learn that there is more to it than the pipes, but even including all the bracket swapping, air box change and flashing the firmwear, I still wonder about 3 hours. And I am totally perplexed at the two radiator hose clamps! Just picture them 6-8 months from now.... :mad:
 

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The dealer's working hard to motivate you to do it yourself. :ltr: I also would suggest the same. Try it out. It will be a nice experience and you'll appreciate the new pipes even more. If it's your first time replacing pipes, reserve like two hours for the whole job. Shouldn't take you more than an hour, at slow pace, but it's always good to go slow and not rush. cheers

You can do the pipes and air box yourself, then ride it in for the flashing.
 

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The dealer's working hard to motivate you to do it yourself. :ltr: I also would suggest the same. Try it out. It will be a nice experience and you'll appreciate the new pipes even more. If it's your first time replacing pipes, reserve like two hours for the whole job. Shouldn't take you more than an hour, at slow pace, but it's always good to go slow and not rush. cheers
I agree with Crossroads. I LOVE working on my own bike, when I can. Anything thats involves just turning nuts and bolts, I do some research and always try it myself. When I decided to wrap my pipes, I swear it took me only 15 minutes to remove both pipes from the bike. It took me a little longer to put then back on because I had to cut off one of the mounting bolts that had cross threaded when I removed the mounting bracket. But once that was done and I replaced the hardware with new stuff, it took me only another half hour or so to put the pipes back on and tighten everything up for a grand total, (not including the day and a half it took to wrap the pipes) of less than an hour. Send your bike to me next time, I'll do it for a hundred bucks...hahaha
 

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We charge 2.5 and with removing the old, removing, and cutting the frame, assembling the pipes, installing everything, and doing the program. It takes right at about that time. Could defiantly do it faster if we did not have to worry about scratching stuff, and and fitting things right.
 

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We charge 2.5 and with removing the old, removing, and cutting the frame, assembling the pipes, installing everything, and doing the program. It takes right at about that time. Could defiantly do it faster if we did not have to worry about scratching stuff, and and fitting things right.
Thx, but do you use any screw-up radiator hose clamps?
 

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We charge 2.5 and with removing the old, removing, and cutting the frame, assembling the pipes, installing everything, and doing the program. It takes right at about that time. Could defiantly do it faster if we did not have to worry about scratching stuff, and and fitting things right.
My bike already had Slash Ness pipes on it when I bought it...so I am curious, what part of the frame to you need to cut in order to remove the stock pipes?
 

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Thx, but do you use any screw-up radiator hose clamps?
Only the ones that hold the heat shields in place.

Thinking about it. On your bike there is also the great fun of removing and installing the oil cooler, and working the o2 sensors out in such a way as to not rip the threads off of them
 

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My bike already had Slash Ness pipes on it when I bought it...so I am curious, what part of the frame to you need to cut in order to remove the stock pipes?
Right frame rail where it curves up in the rear to bolt to the swing arm pivot bolt
 

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If your muffler and head pipe leaks that does happen. With a hacksaw you can put a couple notches in the muffler in let and that should solve it.

Yes 3 hours is reasonable if you think about loosening the head bolts getting this and that out of the way. Taking the 02 sensors can be a bitch if there rusted in good.

I started wrenching back in the day cause I had no money to pay some one so I read the service manuals and started doing my own work. To this day I still read and do my own work and now I have seven customers whos bikes i work on cause they can't afford a dealers price. If you don't feel comfortable doing your own work then take it to the dealer and when you get the bill ask him for details in a nice way. Bring in donuts now and then and see if the deal doesn't give you a little in return
 

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Thx for that info Kevinx

Only the ones that hold the heat shields in place.

Thinking about it. On your bike there is also the great fun of removing and installing the oil cooler, and working the o2 sensors out in such a way as to not rip the threads off of them
Ah, that sounds right, so there wasn't any padding (didn't think so) and I checked when I stopped in there this afternoon, and correct: the hose clamps are for the shields; I just hope they are stainless steel. Thx.

Also, Vision, whatever gray "soot" like wisps I saw on the muffler was coming out from under the shield; the joint is several inches ahead of that, and they will keep an eye on it, as it of course is all under warranty. Thx for your input.

Now I have to get used to the volume...more than I expected. :eek:
 
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