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was standing there looking at a beautiful 2011 white/gray cross country, check in hand. everything was perfect, except, the test ride. wind smacked me on both sides of my face i could not stand it. i went on three test rides with two different helmets (open and closed face) and two different windshields. (stock and flip)

had to walk away. why does this happen?
adam

**edit. not a xct. it is a 2011 cross country.
 

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That's very unusual, Like 610 asked, were the lowers closed and the wind deflectors on the sides of the fairing closed? You should be able to move the air around almost anywhere you want to. By chance, your not like 6' 10" are you? Just noticed, you said xct in title, then you said cross country in body of text, was it a xct or a cc, there is a difference with wind management on each of these bikes. Did the bike have the hard lower fairings with adjustable vents in them or just an engine guard type bar. from what you described, you were on a cc, did it have a trunk? Go back, ride a Cross Country Tour with the trunk, if you like the wind management on this one, buy it, take it home, take trunk off (takes about ten minutes or less, all quick disconnect) except for long trips when you need storage, get a shorter windshield, and then you have a Cross Country with a few handy extras like MP3 hook up, better wind management and extra storage when you need it. Don't give up on these bikes, they are great, just find the right one for you. and if it's not for you, then no harm done, at least you tried it and decided its not for you, but I think if the wind bothered you, you weren't on a Cross Country Tour (XCT). Theres a lot of complaints on this forum from CC riders and they solve it with soft lowers, just research the forum, don't let the wind keep you from riding, I thought that's why we do it, "Wind in our face" Good luck with whatever you decide.
 

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was standing there looking at a beautiful 2011 white/gray cross country, check in hand. everything was perfect, except, the test ride. wind smacked me on both sides of my face i could not stand it. i went on three test rides with two different helmets (open and closed face) and two different windshields. (stock and flip)

had to walk away. why does this happen?
adam
I have a 2012 XC. Same bike as the one you're looking at but with ABS. Stock, I had the same problem as you as have many owners-- I'm 6'4". A lot of the air you complain of actually comes from below the fairing so you have to address that area as well as the screen.

There's a few things that really help the wind management/buffeting:

Lower air deflectors (that mount on your front fork): They come standard on the XCT but not on the XC. Not sure if there even was a 2011 XCT or if that came out in 2012???

Forged bar closeouts -- There are vinyl ones (that I have $90) or spendier plastic ones -- all get great reviews.

Madstad Windshield mounts: Adjustable wind shield mounts. They work with your stock screen and most aftermarket screens. I love mine--quieted my bike all the way past 110mph. I can still talk on my Sena half helmet headset at 70mph, even with RPW pipes, because of this. Probably my favorite addition to my bike! Some guys don't like the looks of them...

There are literally hundreds of threads on remedies for buffeting on the XC bikes -- easy peasy and not that expensive...
 

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That's very unusual, Like 610 asked, were the lowers closed and the wind deflectors on the sides of the fairing closed? You should be able to move the air around almost anywhere you want to. By chance, your not like 6' 10" are you? Just noticed, you said xct in title, then you said cross country in body of text, was it a xct or a cc, there is a difference with wind management on each of these bikes. Did the bike have the hard lower fairings with adjustable vents in them or just an engine guard type bar. from what you described, you were on a cc, did it have a trunk? Go back, ride a Cross Country Tour with the trunk, if you like the wind management on this one, buy it, take it home, take trunk off (takes about ten minutes or less, all quick disconnect) except for long trips when you need storage, get a shorter windshield, and then you have a Cross Country with a few handy extras like MP3 hook up, better wind management and extra storage when you need it. Don't give up on these bikes, they are great, just find the right one for you. and if it's not for you, then no harm done, at least you tried it and decided its not for you, but I think if the wind bothered you, you weren't on a Cross Country Tour (XCT). Theres a lot of complaints on this forum from CC riders and they solve it with soft lowers, just research the forum, don't let the wind keep you from riding, I thought that's why we do it, "Wind in our face" Good luck with whatever you decide.
sorry, cross country. NOT TOURING. i will have to say that wind in your face is a good thing until it gives you a headache and ruins the ride.

thanks for the help on this.
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Hard to say. Your title says XCT, you say in the post XC. There is a lot more than a trunk in the difference and wind management on the two. All can be added for a price, and are direct bolt on IIRC, but the actual wind management of the two is far from similar.

XCT, no problem. Most go with a smaller shield to get air, and not have to look through the shield. Lowers have venting and lower fairing wings as well. Good stuff IMHO. Good enough to pull me off a Wing, and away from a 3rd Venture, that I do absolutely love.

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sorry, cross country. NOT TOURING. i will have to say that wind in your face is a good thing until it gives you a headache and ruins the ride.

thanks for the help on this.
adam
Yea there's a world of difference between the two. I have no wind issues on my XCT.
 

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just so i'm clear here. the problem i had is that the wind was hitting me in my face. maybe around the cheekbone area on both sides. so is that what everyone is calling wind buffeting? that is actually coming from below?

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A Klock Works Windshield may solve the problem. Best wind management on last years demo rides. Was on semi- personal bike of victory truck driver.
 

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just so i'm clear here. the problem i had is that the wind was hitting me in my face. maybe around the cheekbone area on both sides. so is that what everyone is calling wind buffeting? that is actually coming from below?

adam
Most likely. It isn't unique to Vic, just some of the things motorcycles do. Some certainly more than others. If it had forged bars on it, that will amplify things as well.
buffeting is usually associated with wind hitting you in back of the head, but it certainly is a subjective term.

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just so i'm clear here. the problem i had is that the wind was hitting me in my face. maybe around the cheekbone area on both sides. so is that what everyone is calling wind buffeting? that is actually coming from below?

adam
I've seen dealers put that really SHORT nearly black Ness windscreen on some of the XC's (likely in order to match the HD look) making it essentially non-functional. Most people change the windscreens on the XC bikes. Changing from the OEM "blade" Victory windscreen to the Klocwerks Flip resolved about 90% of the wind in face issues but if you go with a Madstad system (brackets and 11" windscreen) and you will eliminate 100% of that wind. Now there is also wind that comes from below on these bikes so make certain you are clear on where the wind is coming from. There are also lower solutions which can be as cheap as $50
 

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just so i'm clear here. the problem i had is that the wind was hitting me in my face. maybe around the cheekbone area on both sides. so is that what everyone is calling wind buffeting? that is actually coming from below?

adam
I have a Tour, but this applies to the XC as well:

If you bought an XC, you might try a Klock Werks "Flare," which is short-ish, and has a curved-up lip on the top: http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/shop/accessories/klock-werks-flare-windscreen/pid-2878833 . (This is not to be confused with the Victory "Flip," http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/shop/accessories/flip-windscreen/pid-2878174 , which is similar, but taller and I don't think as effective.)

You also might try a Madstad shield and brackets: http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.2446/.f . These are available in several heights, and adjustable.

Speaking of which, you didn't mention your height, or whether you have an average or short or long torso.

There are also shields available from Gustafsson, Clearview, Cee Bailey, and 7Jurock.

Windshields are probably the largest choice you have for a Vic among all aftermarket goodies, and this wouldn't be the case if all owners were satisfied with the stock ones. So, if you bought an XC, welcome to the club.

The XCT has more options for air management than the XC, having the lower-fairing doors and the fairing winglets to play with. These also effect buffeting in surprisingly related ways.

A lot of XC owners have added fork-mounted gizmos for air management. (I'm not sure whether the bike you were testing had the fairing winglets.)

So, if buffeting is your only -- or only major -- complaint, that seems to me worth giving the bike another look, with an eye toward being able to deal with that problem later on.
 

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Got pretty beat up on my first test ride of an XC with the stock shield, just as you did. On my 2012 (with forged bars) I have been completely satisfied with the wind management by simply adding the Madstad brackets. They create smooth airflow through the cockpit area which can be adjusted for your height. No need for lowers or any of the other wind management devices mentioned IMHO. I am 5'8" for reference.
 
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