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Hey all, I am Tom from Glendale Arizona. I currently have a 2014 BMW K1600GT however I am thinking about trading it in on a 2016 White Suede Magnum. The bike looks awesome and is REALLY REALLY comfortable to me. I am on the fence because as we all know Victory has stopped production and although they are going to make parts for 10 years, I am very concerned about support and parts over the next years. I am also a little concerned about value. The bike has an MSRP of 24K however it is on sale for 16K with an already installed upgraded exhaust and a couple other little things. Even though that sounds like a smoking deal, what are these things really worth moving forward? I could pay 16K right now but if i drive it off the lot will it only be worth 6K in a few months, year etc?

Anyhow, I will make my mind up over the next couple of days. Either way, i really enjoy reading all of the posts around here and looking at the awesome bikes.

Until next time...
-Tom
 

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Welcome, Tom. The price you are giving is a very good price indeed, but if you have any idea that you will buy a vehicle and then turn around and sell it without taking a loss, Don't get it. I know, you're wanting to mitigate the loss to an acceptable level, but it's just not the way to look at this.

The bike is a toy at worst, necessary transportation at best. Either way, you should plan to keep and ride it and enjoy it. Toward that end, the Victory is a good choice. As a rule, these are strong bikes with few issues and very simple and easy maintenance. And the items that need care have long intervals of care (Oil of course, excluded). And, you said it was very comfortable. If it fits, and you like it, chances are it will serve you well for a long time to come.

Good luck with your hunt. I can tell you this : every time I ride mine, I like it more than the last time I rode it. Yeah, it's that kind of bike.
 

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I have never owned a Beemer, but have rented them. Tall and top heavy and a handful in a parking lot. A close friend is a BMW wrench and had has succeeded, over many years, preventing my purchasing one with his many tales of very expensive repair horror stories. I am 80 1/2 years old and do ALL my own work on my Cross Roads and friends Victorys as well. Everything is so easy to do and I have yet to find a fastener that is hard to get to. Its like the Victory designers were told to make it like they were the ones who had to ride it and work on it. I have never liked cruisers, but when the time came in my life that I needed one, Victory came out with the Cross bikes - the cruiser a cruiser hater can love. Dump the Beemer and get yourself a comfortable and fun bike and let the mods begin.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I don't think I am worried so much on the resale value because if I like the bike I will keep it a very long time. I am more worried that parts will be hard to find in the coming years. If you guys (the ones who ride them all of the time) are not worried then maybe I won't be worried and pull the trigger on the new bike.

Thanks again for the opinions.
 

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I had an '86 Gold Wing before I got my CCT. They only made that 1200 engine style for four years. I could get parts easily. The hardest to come by were the plastic parts, but they could be found. That was one thing appealed to by about the CCT, NO PLASTIC covering a good part of the bike! The later Wings are worse. I am not worried about finding parts. I believe the aftermarket will take care of a lot of that in the coming years.

If it is comfortable and you like, buy it!
 

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Buy it and ride the bejesus out of it...Rack up lots of miles as well as modify it for even more go.
Bikes with high mileage and engine mods don't have much resale value.
Thing is I bought my Vegas to ride and enjoy,
I plan on keeping it forever so resale don't come into the equation.
In the last 3 years I've certainly had my money's worth of fun and adventures....and there's many many more to come.
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In the 65 years I have been riding I can't count the amount of orphan bikes I've had and I never wanted for parts.
 

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now I'm just guessing.
If you ever need body parts your going to have to go to ebay or a crash toy site. I doubt that Vic will have any.
Tire fork seals some windshields and seats will be around for maybe some time.
As for the drive train you'll have to find a dealer willing to work on it. Valves and pistons and some other parts you can find. Gaskets might be hard to come by.
The belt and pulleys you'll find for sometime.
But the dealer might take 2 or 3 months to get some parts like fuel pump of filter.
The bottom line is its going to be a crap shoot ever time you need a part.
Yes Victory is a good buy right now and you more then likely have thousands of trouble free miles. But then you'll never know whats around the next corner
Me I would pass on a Vic
 

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Hey all, I am Tom from Glendale Arizona. I currently have a 2014 BMW K1600GT however I am thinking about trading it in on a 2016 White Suede Magnum. The bike looks awesome and is REALLY REALLY comfortable to me. I am on the fence because as we all know Victory has stopped production and although they are going to make parts for 10 years, I am very concerned about support and parts over the next years. I am also a little concerned about value. The bike has an MSRP of 24K however it is on sale for 16K with an already installed upgraded exhaust and a couple other little things. Even though that sounds like a smoking deal, what are these things really worth moving forward? I could pay 16K right now but if i drive it off the lot will it only be worth 6K in a few months, year etc?

Anyhow, I will make my mind up over the next couple of days. Either way, i really enjoy reading all of the posts around here and looking at the awesome bikes.

Until next time...
-Tom
Why!? :eek

Thanks for the reply. I don't think I am worried so much on the resale value because if I like the bike I will keep it a very long time. I am more worried that parts will be hard to find in the coming years. If you guys (the ones who ride them all of the time) are not worried then maybe I won't be worried and pull the trigger on the new bike.

Thanks again for the opinions.
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I would not do this trade if I were you. Tom you're nuts ;) You are riding one of the premier touring bikes in the world with all the latest technology, not to mention the incredible power and handling. Unless you have an unquenchable desire to look cool, blasting tunes riding down Main St in Glendale....you're making a mistake. The Magnum is going to be less motorcycle. Less power, poorer handling, more buffeting, intense air-cooled engine heat(especially being in Arizona) and I bet on a long tour the Magnum will be less comfortable. Then add in the things above you should have legitimate concern about...... Better give this some serious thinkin'
 

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Agree with above. Dude buy an older used cruiser if that is your style and keep the BMW. The amount of money you would lose on trade in would buy you a bike. I bought a 2013 Victory Hammer 8 ball mint with some upgrades and new tire for 6,000 cash. You can probably find even better deals if you are patient! That BMW is hands down the best touring bike in the world and will retain good value forvever!
 

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I would say that would depend on what a person finds comfortable and appealing. I test rode a BMW K1600GTL, their premier touring bike. It has amazing power and cool techno stuff. However, for me, it was not as comfortable a ride as my CCT, and the wife found the CCT more comfortable also. Plus, the CCT has rear speakers, the BMW does not.

It's all what feels best to the rider/passenger.
 

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I would say that would depend on what a person finds comfortable and appealing. I test rode a BMW K1600GTL, their premier touring bike. It has amazing power and cool techno stuff. However, for me, it was not as comfortable a ride as my CCT, and the wife found the CCT more comfortable also. Plus, the CCT has rear speakers, the BMW does not.

It's all what feels best to the rider/passenger.
True, but in my opinion it would be a hard pill to shallow going from a K1600GT to an XC Magnum. I didn't even mention the monetary valves, even at $16k the second its driven off the lot the valve is taking a huge dip.
I guess the reason why I'm being so mouthy in this thread is because the K1600GT is high on my list of possible replacements for my XC and someone going the other way freaks me out a little ;)

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Monitory valves? Are they hydraulic or what?
 

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Welcome, Tom. The price you are giving is a very good price indeed, but if you have any idea that you will buy a vehicle and then turn around and sell it without taking a loss, Don't get it. I know, you're wanting to mitigate the loss to an acceptable level, but it's just not the way to look at this.

The bike is a toy at worst, necessary transportation at best. Either way, you should plan to keep and ride it and enjoy it. Toward that end, the Victory is a good choice. As a rule, these are strong bikes with few issues and very simple and easy maintenance. And the items that need care have long intervals of care (Oil of course, excluded). And, you said it was very comfortable. If it fits, and you like it, chances are it will serve you well for a long time to come.

Good luck with your hunt. I can tell you this : every time I ride mine, I like it more than the last time I rode it. Yeah, it's that kind of bike.
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I have never owned a Beemer, but have rented them. Tall and top heavy and a handful in a parking lot. A close friend is a BMW wrench and had has succeeded, over many years, preventing my purchasing one with his many tales of very expensive repair horror stories. I am 80 1/2 years old and do ALL my own work on my Cross Roads and friends Victorys as well. Everything is so easy to do and I have yet to find a fastener that is hard to get to. Its like the Victory designers were told to make it like they were the ones who had to ride it and work on it. I have never liked cruisers, but when the time came in my life that I needed one, Victory came out with the Cross bikes - the cruiser a cruiser hater can love. Dump the Beemer and get yourself a comfortable and fun bike and let the mods begin.
80 and half years old? Are you really? Because if you are, I hope to be riding and working on my bike when I'm 80!!! That's awesome!

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Yup, I'm a 1936 model. Been riding since 1952 and most never heard of my first bike; a Simplex Servi-Cycle. You can imagine my reaction to some young whipper-snapper's post that he's taking his bike into a shop to have a tire mounted or fork oil changed. Wimps!
 

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Yup, I'm a 1936 model. Been riding since 1952 and most never heard of my first bike; a Simplex Servi-Cycle. You can imagine my reaction to some young whipper-snapper's post that he's taking his bike into a shop to have a tire mounted or fork oil changed. Wimps!
That is too cool. Well I'm glad you're on here. It's safe to say you bring a lot of experience!!

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True, but in my opinion it would be a hard pill to shallow going from a K1600GT to an XC Magnum. I didn't even mention the monetary valves, even at $16k the second its driven off the lot the valve is taking a huge dip.
I guess the reason why I'm being so mouthy in this thread is because the K1600GT is high on my list of possible replacements for my XC and someone going the other way freaks me out a little ;)

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The K1600GTL's that I was looking at were used, couldn't afford a new one, they cost as much as a Roadmaster. They were 2-3 years old, the most mileage on one was 12,000 and they were 8-10 grand less than the original price. One third less in 2 years is significant, but that is typical with high end European bikes (and cars), they don't hold value.

Now I am not dissin' the BMW's, they are awesome bikes, and I loved the test rides I did. For me the leg positioning is more in line with sport bikes, i.e. feet are slightly to the rear of mid controls. That's what wasn't comfortable for me. The salesman told me that the GTL is made for the rider coming off of sport bikes that wants a touring bike, but doesn't want to completely give up the sport bike feel. If the feet position had been more neutral, I might have ended up with one of them instead.
 

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Now I am not dissin' the BMW's, they are awesome bikes, and I loved the test rides I did. For me the leg positioning is more in line with sport bikes, i.e. feet are slightly to the rear of mid controls. That's what wasn't comfortable for me. The salesman told me that the GTL is made for the rider coming off of sport bikes that wants a touring bike, but doesn't want to completely give up the sport bike feel. If the feet position had been more neutral, I might have ended up with one of them instead.
Leg position(or lack of) is one of my biggest hold backs form making a sport-tourer my next bike. Bikes like the K1600, FJR, Concourse, even the F6B don't allow near enough leg movement. Legs under the rider gives more control of the bike and its where they need to be for sport riding...for touring and my everyday riding I want my legs forward and with freedom of movement. So I'll back step back on what I said and give the Magnum this over the K1600, no motorcycle has as much leg freedom and room as a Victory Cross bike or Vision :)
 
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