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Would be interested in a comparison of the Kingpin to the Vision, especially if you had a Kingpin Tour with saddlebags and trunk.
 

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Two different animals although the KP can be ridden cross country easily. The bags and trunk are just luggage. Doesn't matter either way with that stuff.

Now if you were to ask what the difference is between a Vision and a KP riding 2 up cross country; you would probably get answers like the Vision is much better. So are the X bikes for that matter.

Age, seats, backrests, weight of rider/passenger... all these things come into question when trying to figure out what is best. Also; how much long distance riding vs shorter, say, 2-400 mile trips. The KP will work just fine with 3-400 mile days riding two up with maybe a Memphis Shades batwing with a tall enough shield, good seating and backrest's, and good sized saddlebags. A luggage rack with a decent sized bag to rest on it will work as well as any trunk; sometimes better IMHO.

I have the XC and a KP. If I had to get rid of one of them; the XC would be the one to go. Just more fun and versatile all around for the kind of riding I like to do. Having both is a gift from heaven though. :)

I look forward to hearing what you decide to do after getting all the info you need...
 

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Thanks BBob for your insight. I have let go of the opportunity to get into a Vision for $14,300. My wife enjoys the ride on the KP, although wouldn't mind softer seating. Future 2 up riding hopefully will include a circle trip of Lake Superior and Sturgis is on our schedule from WI. The XC was also a consideration. I did learn this weekend that my wife only needs one pair of underwear. She can wash and blow dry the pair, so I guess I don't need any extra luggage space. :) And, maybe in a little over 2 years, I'll own my KP outright and can shop for a second bike. You ARE a lucky rider to own to Victory's!
 

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I went from an '06 KP Deluxe to an '11 Vision. While I love the Vision,and all the creature comforts, I do miss my KP's fun factor and performance ( 110" bored / stroked 11:1 and nitrous). That KP also made multiple long distance trips, from 2,000-3,500 miles in a week. However, that was all riding solo. Don't think i would have taken the KP on those distances two up.
 

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KP to Vision Rider in Maine

I bought 05 KP Deluxe new that was my first bike in 25 years. Both my wife and I loved the ride. Most of my riding is 2up since the wife doesn't want to get a MC license which is fine with me. Our average day ride would be 200-250 miles with no issues. Then we bought a Roll-A-Home pop-up camper to do some MC camping. (No roughing it with that 350 lb. unit.) The KP towed it fine but there was some degradation in performance and certainly handling. All to be expected. We traded in for a new 2011 Vision. I barely notice the camper when towing. The comfort of the Vision is noticably better than the KP plus heated seat and grips makes for a longer riding season in Maine. With all that said, I still miss the KP. It is a great looking bike and a great ride.
 

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I bought 05 KP Deluxe new that was my first bike in 25 years. Both my wife and I loved the ride. Most of my riding is 2up since the wife doesn't want to get a MC license which is fine with me. Our average day ride would be 200-250 miles with no issues. Then we bought a Roll-A-Home pop-up camper to do some MC camping. (No roughing it with that 350 lb. unit.) The KP towed it fine but there was some degradation in performance and certainly handling. All to be expected. We traded in for a new 2011 Vision. I barely notice the camper when towing. The comfort of the Vision is noticably better than the KP plus heated seat and grips makes for a longer riding season in Maine. With all that said, I still miss the KP. It is a great looking bike and a great ride.
Looks like the obvious solution is to payoff my Kingpin and pick up a used Vision in a couple of years and have two Victory's!
 

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Looks like the obvious solution is to payoff my Kingpin and pick up a used Vision in a couple of years and have two Victory's!
You will not be riding the Kingpin very much after you buy the Vision...I know many guys that think what you think and they end up riding the Vision everywhere. Go test ride one.....you will see what I mean. thumb up

Good luck with your decision.
 

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Several Test Rides!

You will not be riding the Kingpin very much after you buy the Vision...I know many guys that think what you think and they end up riding the Vision everywhere. Go test ride one.....you will see what I mean. thumb up

Good luck with your decision.
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Hello Spiderman! I have test drove several Visions. On the last ride, I had to re-set the GPS so it wouldn't give away my top speed on my ride. :) Visions are sweet bikes, especially for this miserably cold WI spring and fall weather. Will keep shopping. I own more ($$) of my Kingpin every month, so I'll have the collateral at trade-in for the steep pricing of the Visions. Will have to nab another $1000 test ride coupon and make a deal on a Vision in the near future.
 
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