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I'm looking for about 2" more ("that's what she said").

I have an XCT, and I want some pullbacks, preferably in black. I don't want mini-apes, I'm not looking for a custom look, etc. -- I just want some pullbacks. I'm 5'9", with a 30" inseam, and the last time I bought a dress shirt (maybe 10 years ago) my arm length was 33" - 34".

And I've spent hours (days?) reading posts on the subject.

- The official Vic XC(T) 2" pullbacks are $299 (discounts available). The negatives are that they don't come in black, and they don't do anything for the wrist angle (which I think is angled back too much, i.e., I think I'd like the grips angled less back on the ends).

- HMD's HMD-40 bars ( http://www.hmd520.com/category/XC-Parts-32 ) are $349 (discounted every December). Mike notes on that page: "The bars in the picture, has the bars at the highest setting. The bars can adjust down 2.5-3" more giving you a 2.5" pullback. The hand postion has been changed to give you a more comfortable feeling." And that's the price for black (chrome being $25 more).

Nonetheless, like the bike in the pics there, many (most?) people who have these bars seem to have them up high, like mini-apes. Maybe most buyers are tall and have long arms. Maybe that "more comfortable hand position" is a downward angle that invites having the bars higher up -- I don't know.

And despite the "...2.5" pullback..." when adjusted down, I've read comments such as jwflash's ( http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=14163 ), who, when asked why he was selling the HMD-40s, said, "They do give more pullback than the stock bars and look waaaaay better! Unfortunately I felt like I needed more (pullback) so I went with the Victory 2" pullback bars." I read another comment (which I can't find now) from someone else, who said that the HMDs didn't provide any pullback. Maybe that guy didn't adjust them down properly. I don't know, but I'm puzzled regarding how 2.5" pullback can be less than the Vic's 2" pullback... and that's from someone who's had both on his XC.

- The Ness bars that I think are for the XC(T) are the "Modular Cross Country Apes, black" ( http://shop.arlenness.com/p-8123-modular-cross-country-apes-black.aspx ), and are $450; I don't know whether discounts are available.

I also don't know whether these are, like the HMD-40s, meant solely to be mini-apes (as in their name), or whether they can function as pullbacks, if just lowered. I like the fact that there's some built-in adjustment for the grip part of the bars, but I'm not sure how that effects the in-out angle, vs. the up-down angle of that area.

- BR's Custom Bars (e.g., http://www.brcustomcycles.com/Bagger_Bars_FRB6.php ) are in about this price range, too. That's nice that you can specify a lot of dimensions yourself, i.e., really customize these bars. On the down side, that's a fair chunk of change to spend on bars that you can't adjust. What if you get the specification wrong (and there's a lot to specify).

- Moving up, you have Heli-Bars ( https://www.helibars.com/product/horizon-ccr-multi-adjustable-handlebars-victory ) for $750 (discounted a bit every once in a while). These provide ultimate adjustability, and the few folks who have these (at least the ones who've posted) all seem to love them, love being to fine-tune the adjustments, etc.

On the down side regarding the Heli-Bars, as the late US Senator Everitt Dirksen is reputed to have said, "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money." Also, they're not available in black.

Me, this all reminds me of popcorn at the movies. "For 50 cents more, you can upgrade to a medium size." Well, why not, reasonable enough. But then, "For 50 cents more, you can upgrade that medium to a large size." And so it goes, on up to Jumbo Family, Free Refills or something.

That's my rant. I'm disappointed that I can't seem to get what I want -- either not-very-expensive black handlebars that are really pullback-only oriented, or a something like the Heli-Bars... but for half that amount, and in black. Or just some $100 - $150 risers -- forget the whole new handlebar thing -- which is what I added on my previous two bikes (in which case maybe I should have purchased an XR, instead, because you can't do risers on an XCT). Or maybe I should just shut up, bite the bullet, and spring for the Heli's.

Anyone care to comment, especially anyone who's had both the HMD-40s and the Vic 2" pullbacks on their bike (hopefully not at the same time)?
 

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So this is just a thought but take your factory bars to a machine shop. Have them modify them by adding 2-2 1/2" to the length. You could also have the grip angle altered to suit you while you are there. Shouldn't cost that much. Just an idea.

That appears to be all they did on the Vic 2" bars.

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So this is just a thought but take your factory bars to a machine shop. Have them modify them by adding 2-2 1/2" to the length. You could also have the grip angle altered to suit you while you are there. Shouldn't cost that much. Just an idea.

That appears to be all they did on the Vic 2" bars.

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Thanks for the thought. Interesting. I like the part about altering the grip angle, but the part about adding length -- you don't think that would look too sloppy, where the addition was made?
 

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I was unable to find bars with the dimensions I wanted. I just sent my request to Vic Baggers and the nailed them exactly how I wanted.

Upside is the quality is great AND they were cheaper than HMD or others.


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When I ordered they only had the top set on the site. The bottom ones are actually my bars (99%sure).

I just sent him a pic of the top swoop and the desired dimensions and they made them.


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When I ordered they only had the top set on the site. The bottom ones are actually my bars (99%sure).

I just sent him a pic of the top swoop and the desired dimensions and they made them.


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Thanks for the info. I may have to take some measurements, and call or email them.
 

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Well, I'm in PA. No heat in the garage. Hopefully within a week or two I will be installing the HMD Pullback bars OR HMD-40 I believe they are numbered.

I can take a picture or two of them both laying beside each other for comparision but it may or may not show the difference with the HMD bars having the J bend in them.
I am going for a more "pullback" feel than "up" or "ape" feel. So maybe I can come up with a way to take a few side shots of before "stock" and after "HMD" the installed bars.
 

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Well, I'm in PA. No heat in the garage. Hopefully within a week or two I will be installing the HMD Pullback bars OR HMD-40 I believe they are numbered.

I can take a picture or two of them both laying beside each other for comparision but it may or may not show the difference with the HMD bars having the J bend in them.
I am going for a more "pullback" feel than "up" or "ape" feel. So maybe I can come up with a way to take a few side shots of before "stock" and after "HMD" the installed bars.
Appreciate any help you can give me, any light you can shed on this. Thanks.
 

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Thanks for the thought. Interesting. I like the part about altering the grip angle, but the part about adding length -- you don't think that would look too sloppy, where the addition was made?

From the looks of it you could probably do the alteration behind the cowl and never see it. At the same time a decent machine shop could probably do it with out you even knowing it. You could always get you a pipe bender ;)


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I will do what I can. BUT I ain't freezin' my boys off for ya. -4 here yesterday morning and now about 4" of fresh white chit out there and still snowing.
It hopefully will start warming up here soon. I have the Bars, Lloydz throttle ring, Air Filter and Fuel controller to mount up. Going to look for a reasonable day and get it all at once.
 

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VJ: thanks much for the links. The WD Outraged bars look like they have a good, i.e., normal, angle for the wrist. Their pics show them mounted as mini apes, but I guess they could go lower. And at 34 1/2", they're a little wide for me... but maybe the ends could be cut off some.
 

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I will do what I can. BUT I ain't freezin' my boys off for ya. -4 here yesterday morning and now about 4" of fresh white chit out there and still snowing.
It hopefully will start warming up here soon. I have the Bars, Lloydz throttle ring, Air Filter and Fuel controller to mount up. Going to look for a reasonable day and get it all at once.
You could be waiting for April, at this rate.
 

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feel your pain.............

had this conversation many times. My frustration was the fact that I wanted more pull back than the +2. We are the same height, inseam, and arm length and I always felt i was leaning forward to reach the bars.
I finallty broke down and went with the heli bars. My biggest concern was with that much pull back that the bike would be hard to drive. The vic dealer that put them in for me warned me that it would be difficult to ride
When i picked the bike up the guy was smiling and told me he couldn't believe how great the bike handled with the bars. Even then I was skeptical. Have, to say, he was right. The bike handles great with the new bars, and I haven't been this comfortable on a bike in a long time.
The bars are very expensive and it took me a long time to break down and get them, but i'm very glad i did. I would never tell anyone that they would get the same result b/c there are so many factors in finding that right position. I can just say it was the right bar for me.
 

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had this conversation many times. My frustration was the fact that I wanted more pull back than the +2. We are the same height, inseam, and arm length and I always felt i was leaning forward to reach the bars.
I finallty broke down and went with the heli bars. My biggest concern was with that much pull back that the bike would be hard to drive. The vic dealer that put them in for me warned me that it would be difficult to ride
When i picked the bike up the guy was smiling and told me he couldn't believe how great the bike handled with the bars. Even then I was skeptical. Have, to say, he was right. The bike handles great with the new bars, and I haven't been this comfortable on a bike in a long time.
The bars are very expensive and it took me a long time to break down and get them, but i'm very glad i did. I would never tell anyone that they would get the same result b/c there are so many factors in finding that right position. I can just say it was the right bar for me.
Thanks very much for your comments. I have a nagging suspicion that I'm going to break down at some point and get them. You know the saying, "Do it right, or don't do it at all"?
 

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Which aftermarket bars accept stock heated grips and end caps; and stock length brake, clutch, and throttle cables?
 

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Which aftermarket bars accept stock heated grips and end caps; and stock length brake, clutch, and throttle cables?
From my reading of gobs of posts, it appears that they all do, as they all seem to taper down (as they near the grip area) to 1", like the stock bars, even if they use fatter tubing for much of the bars. (And, of course, they need to be the same size as the stockers at the triple-tree clamp area.)

This is providing that (again, from my reading, not from personal experience):

1) They don't come back more than about 2", and;
2) You have a 2012 or newer XC/XCT. I keep reading -- in posts and on vendor sites -- that the '10 and '11 XCs had shorter cables or something, and so need longer cables and some extra washers of some sort. Also, at least one vendor says that the positioning of banjo bolts may need to be rotated, and a lot of vendors mention possible cable rerouting.
 
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