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Daily rider 22-24k miles/year
Changed clutch pack @25,000 miles
Then again 1 month later. (Dealer warranty)
Now I am getting slippage at 43,000 miles!
I know the 1 month redo isn't normal. But is 20,000 miles normal wear?
If it is, I guess I better get used to an annual clutch change and get the courage to do it myself.
 

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09 vision
Daily rider 22-24k miles/year
Changed clutch pack @25,000 miles
Then again 1 month later. (Dealer warranty)
Now I am getting slippage at 43,000 miles!
I know the 1 month redo isn't normal. But is 20,000 miles normal wear?
If it is, I guess I better get used to an annual clutch change and get the courage to do it myself.
How much clutch freeplay do you run and where do you measure it?
Also at risk of crucifixion, errrr, what oil do you use?
 

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I got 40 K on my original clutch. No slippage at all. I don't baby the beast either.....The what oil question is a good one...
 

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+1 on the what oil. Tried amsoil when it came time for a oil change and almost immediately had slippage issues, def not recommended....
 

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Rebuild clutch basket. Make sure the Judder Diaphram is changed out also. With the hydraulic clutch, Bleed the system, you may need to release slave cyl. from clutch pinion at some point, compress with clutch lever to get all old oil fluid and air out. Then reattach clutch pinion. It is not like the cable version where you can simply adjust.
 

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all vision come with hydraulic clutch. The only one that doesn't is the 8ball.
So the clutch is never out of adjustment if the master cylinder and slave cylinder are working right.
Am guessing your not using the clutch correctly or they assembled it wrong.
Victory clutch plates have to go together a certain way. The dealer tech might not of knowing how to put it together.

What oil are you using and have you ever changed the master cylinder fluid

 

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I use the victory 20 40 oil.
I'm assuming the judder seat comes with the clutch pack. When it went bad the first time, Barnett told my tech it may have been The center ring that was bad. That was probably the judder seat?
If free play is distance from clutch fully extended to point of engagement, probably 1/4".
I would like to know average miles a vision should get out of a clutch with normal use. It is a daily highway rider.
But I do ride mainstreat in Daytona for bike week. Which does get the engine hot. But I find it hard to believe that 500,000 biker leave bike week and swap out a new clutch.
 

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Thanks..I had just watched this video before posting and feel comfortable doing the work. Just not looking forward to doing it every April if I shouldn't have to.
 

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What a nice video.... Í emailed it to myself for future reference.... Thanks for posting

Andre
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you should be able to ride 80K or more before doing a clutch.
When your in Daytona or five o'clock rush hour traffic. Always get your bike in neutral when sitting still. When you have the clutch lever puller in your causing the clutch to heat up.
 

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you should be able to ride 80K or more before doing a clutch.

When your in Daytona or five o'clock rush hour traffic. Always get your bike in neutral when sitting still. When you have the clutch lever puller in your causing the clutch to heat up.


Update: getting no more than 2 -3 months 3-5k miles from my Barnett Clutch packs. Just came back from leesburg bikefest and the clutch went after my afternoon ride down Main Street.
Working with my mechanic on using the oem replacement clutch. I BETTER get at least 30k miles from this change over!


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Mate there is definitly something wrong.
Without a doubt.
My clutch has almost 80K miles on it and it cops a lot of abuse.
However...Im a stickler for maintenance.
Gotta have freeplay

Edit...when I say abuse..its either in or out. .I rarely have to slip it.
It wears when it slips.
Fully engaged or fully disengaged should give stuff all wear.
On a properly adjusted system.
 

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Update: getting no more than 2 -3 months 3-5k miles from my Barnett Clutch packs. Just came back from leesburg bikefest and the clutch went after my afternoon ride down Main Street.
Working with my mechanic on using the oem replacement clutch. I BETTER get at least 30k miles from this change over!


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No play in the cable or you always have it half engaged.
 

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Update: getting no more than 2 -3 months 3-5k miles from my Barnett Clutch packs. Just came back from leesburg bikefest and the clutch went after my afternoon ride down Main Street.
Working with my mechanic on using the oem replacement clutch. I BETTER get at least 30k miles from this change over!


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No play in the cable or you always have it half engaged.
Have you talked to Barnett about it? Maybe they have a suggestion.? I have used the Barnett clutch in all three of my last three bikes and so far [knock on wood] I have had no problem with them. Are you sure they were installed correctly? I know there are no real instructions for installing them from Barnett. They just say follow your bike manual.
 

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Guys vision have hydraulic clutch. The 8 ball has a cable.
I'm pretty sure he's hydraulics they have no real free play like a cable
 

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Thank you for the clutch video. This is the first one I've seen so I also followed the link and watched a few other ones as well. It looks easier to do this work that I thought it would be. With the exception of needing the clutch tool, home made or purchased. You just have to love a YouTube certification!

Fortunately my clutch is still working perfectly after 56K miles. Yes, I have plenty of free play in the cable adjustment. And no, I don't let it slip much.

Though I've heard it stated both ways with the Victory clutch at a redlight. Some say to keep the clutch lever pulled in and the bike in gear and some say to put the bike in Neutral with the clutch lever out.

I was under the impression that with the clutch lever pulled in, the clutch plates were separated and therefore allowed to be cooled by the oil being able to circulate between them. With the clutch lever out and the bike in gear, aren't the clutch plates locked up and the oil is mostly squeezed out from between them?
 

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Bill Ragusa

long as your going threw so many clutches that are not cheap. Do yourself a favor and go see Kevinx he is one of the top Vic mechanic in the USA. Call him and at least talk to him


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