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Sigh...……..that they did.
Yeah I certainly tried to rationalise not needing cams.....till I got em!
In a stroke of bad luck (getting taken down by a fkn big dog!)
my bike incurred internal gearbox damage as well as cosmetic, and had to have an engine teardown to fix it.
I got a mates engineering shop to do the job and while we had it pulled down I bought Lloydz Big Bore (100/109) and .495 cams with the spring kit.
So I sold one of my '61 vintage cars to pay for everything and more.
Turned a negative situation into ultimately a positive one!
Bike was off the road 8 months but when Id broke it in and got it properly tuned I was completely won over to cams!....Phenomenal difference when you get a Vic breathing properly..filling those huge cylinders that are the equivalent of slicing say 2 cylinders off a 440 Chrysler, 430 Buick or similar size Muscle Car V8
Get a Vic breathing and you got a true Muscle Bike!
I'm so convinced now that as soon as I bought my 106 Cross Country I ordered VM1 drop in cams, air filter, gutted the mufflers.
Then got the Maximus and paid the top tuner here to put it on his Dyno (not cheap)
Cams are the heart of the engine.
Fortunately I'd sold another car and had the cash to 'just do it'
Hey ya only live once!...just heard a good mates getting chemo for throat cancer!
I wouldnt personally go into debt for anything but Im old school, the world runs on credit, instant thrills pay later.
I say go for it if you really want Grunt...."Just do it!"
 

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Yeah I certainly tried to rationalise not needing cams.....till I got em!
Same here. Some of the alumni here might remember saying how I liked the Cobra tuner :)eek) when I had it, about 5 years ago...

Honestly, even though the tune is about double that of the UD pulley, I would still go with the tune over the UD pulley for my first mod (knowing what I know now). Cost wise, the Maximus tune is comparable to a DynoJet Power Commander and dyno tune. Either way, the tune or the UD will definitely give you a difference you can feel.
 

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Went a little different than the theme of this thread (Maximus) by selecting the Powervision PVcx and a dyno tune. Sometimes 'cash-on-hand' is a limiting factor and you have to make a decision. Cams may be a possibility in the future but that is the decision I made for now. And, if you look at the numbers in my sig, I am riding with a smile on my face in the mean time.
 

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PVCX and Maximus two different ways to achieve same end result. A tune flashed directly on the bike. No add-on trickery boxes, just running a modified tune.
I'm a fan of the PVCX but I've never visited a dyno. Someday maybe. This only being my third bike I'm quite happy without cams. I have enough power. :)
 

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PVCX and Maximus two different ways to achieve same end result. A tune flashed directly on the bike. No add-on trickery boxes, just running a modified tune.
I'm a fan of the PVCX but I've never visited a dyno. Someday maybe. This only being my third bike I'm quite happy without cams. I have enough power. :)
You have enough power!...I thought so too till I put cams in!

WARNING!...Don't ever be tempted to ride a cammed and properly tuned Victory then you'll never know the true potential, and what you're missing out on.
I used to think like you till I experienced the Revelation of Victory breathing properly:devil
 

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Well considering I only see another Vic on the road maybe once a year I don't have to worry about riding one with cams.

The extra power might be useful if I ever had a passenger I suppose.
 

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The PC-V can do fueling everywhere, you just cannot use it to change the ignition timing below 2500 rpm. The timing wheel adjusts BASE timing (that's all over, not just at a specific range of rpm).



My $.02:
It depends on what you're looking for. What do you want to change about the bike? There is nothing like a perfectly tuned bike... very important... and will improve power, drivability, and fuel economy too.

On the other hand, the 31 tooth pulley is a final drive gearing change and is beneficial in a completely different way. If you feel the bike's gearing is too tall (need to downshift all the way to 1st at intersections and 6th gear is useless below 70 mph) then the pulley will be something you'll really like.

It's only money... you get paid again next week, so it's not like you won't get any more money.

Here's a suggestion... walk into your bank and tell them you want a 'no interest for 18 months' credit card. Get what you want for the bike and as long as you pay it off in 18 months you get to use their money FOR FREE, leave your money where it is, and boost your credit score in the process. Even if you get it all,Maximus w/tune, pulley, and LSC cams too ($3K)... It would only cost you $167/month to pay it off in 18 months.

Life is far TOO LONG to suffer though it telling yourself "No"... when your heart says "Yes!". Spend a couple of years waiting... or spend a couple of years ENJOYING.

6th gear really is useless when under 70. Quick question though. When changing to the under drive would a new tune be needed for any reason? I plan on adding it later. I have the 505 cams on the way already have the Lloydz filter and throttle ring. All I need is the tuner
 

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No. Will not change the tune.[/QUOTE]


I suppose the question should have been how much of a difference will it make on the dyno with and without it using the same tune? If none then it won’t hurt to wait on it.
I’m planning on getting the under drive pulley just not sure if I need to get it before the tune to get a more accurate graph of where the bike is at.
 

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Go back and read HC's post about this. A tune and an UD pulley do two different things. Both excellent, but different.

I'd get a tune before the UD pulley because that's exactly what I've done. I will get an UD pulley and install it when my belt needs to be changed. I simply can't imagine not having a Victory 106 properly tuned though because as delivered, they perform and sound constipated.
 
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6th gear really is useless when under 70. Quick question though. When changing to the under drive would a new tune be needed for any reason? I plan on adding it later. I have the 505 cams on the way already have the Lloydz filter and throttle ring. All I need is the tuner
No new tuning should be required. All you are doing is changing the RPM of the motor in relationship to the RPM of the rear wheel.
 
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