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per a post from bbob about rattle abatement....i splurged for the brukus bag mounts...and i do believe she is quieter....i also flared out the small foam pad with a couple of dowel inserts to snug the lids....

more...after seeing the stock qr mounts...the brukus are really a better solution for those of use who will not be taking off / dropping thousand dollar glass bags at overnights (never have)...i am really pleased with them...

so thanks bbob....

they are a bit pricey though...and you could likely put your own together....but...
 

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Wrapping dental floss around the upper and lower hinge mounts works very well to get rid of the rattle too.
 

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The best way I can explain it (with an easy visual) is that the lid hinges work like door hinges in your house. On most hinges (including your doors and lids) there are two halves that rotate around a pin.

The object of the dental floss is to wrap the pins and fill the gaps between your hinge halves . Filling the gaps adds tension to the hinges which keeps them from moving up/down/forward/backward.

Start with a 12-14" long piece of floss and stick it between the hinge halves below the pin from the inside of your bags. Once you see it come through the outside pull it through (leaving a 2-3" tail) then push it back through over the top of the pin. Repeat this process at least 5-6 times per hinge section and it will eliminate rattle. Once you finish each section tie the 2 end of the floss together and snip the excess.

Note that it is better to have too many wraps than not enough. With too many you'll have more tension on the hinges but the floss will last longer.
 

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Wrapping dental floss around the upper and lower hinge mounts works very well to get rid of the rattle too.
this is a good idea..in fact, back when i was wearing a helmet and had one with loose shield snaps - the rattles were a drag.. i did this with some waxed harness lace and it was peachy...did the same treatment for my neighbor's....gave that one away with the last bike...now i have one with screws..for rides into nevada and california....i am gonna look at the hinges.....thanks
 

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You can do them cheaper, though not drastically as some may lead you to believe. I swung over to the Home Depot and picked up what I needed which was essentially four bolts and the anchors. Also grabbed a spare alan wrench for them to put in the bikes tool kit. Runs about $15 after taxes (bolts make up most of it at about $2ea). But $20 saved is $20 saved.
 

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The best way I can explain it (with an easy visual) is that the lid hinges work like door hinges in your house. On most hinges (including your doors and lids) there are two halves that rotate around a pin.

The object of the dental floss is to wrap the pins and fill the gaps between your hinge halves . Filling the gaps adds tension to the hinges which keeps them from moving up/down/forward/backward.

Start with a 12-14" long piece of floss and stick it between the hinge halves below the pin from the inside of your bags. Once you see it come through the outside pull it through (leaving a 2-3" tail) then push it back through over the top of the pin. Repeat this process at least 5-6 times per hinge section and it will eliminate rattle. Once you finish each section tie the 2 end of the floss together and snip the excess.

Note that it is better to have too many wraps than not enough. With too many you'll have more tension on the hinges but the floss will last longer.
Thanks for sharing this!!

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per a post from bbob about rattle abatement....i splurged for the brukus bag mounts...and i do believe she is quieter....i also flared out the small foam pad with a couple of dowel inserts to snug the lids....

more...after seeing the stock qr mounts...the brukus are really a better solution for those of use who will not be taking off / dropping thousand dollar glass bags at overnights (never have)...i am really pleased with them...

so thanks bbob....

they are a bit pricey though...and you could likely put your own together....but...
You're more than welcome. The difference between the hardware solution and the Brukus solution is the section of the bolt that goes through the rubber grommet. Being machined down, it allows the bolt to spin like it should, and not fall out after unscrewing them although the standard bolt probably wouldn't until the grommet would chewed up enough eventually.

While trying to help Brukus dial in those bolts I took some and just ground down the section that stays in the grommet's using my bench grinder. Took a little doing because the bolts they use are fairly hard but standard hardware store bolts are probably softer and easier to grind down. Just keep turning the bolt and it will be fairly evenly ground down in that section.
 

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per a post from bbob about rattle abatement....i splurged for the brukus bag mounts...and i do believe she is quieter....i also flared out the small foam pad with a couple of dowel inserts to snug the lids....

more...after seeing the stock qr mounts...the brukus are really a better solution for those of use who will not be taking off / dropping thousand dollar glass bags at overnights (never have)...i am really pleased with them...

so thanks bbob....

they are a bit pricey though...and you could likely put your own together....but...
Where do yo buy these bracus bag mounts and do they come with the screws and spacers and other hardware?
Thanks bcflyguy
 

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Where do yo buy these bracus bag mounts and do they come with the screws and spacers and other hardware?
Thanks bcflyguy
I got mine from their site, although I believe there are some motorcycle shops that are dealers.

This is their regular link: http://brukus.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=brukus-motorcycle-parts&pc=12995 ; however, here's the link for VMF members, which will save you a few bucks:

http://brukus.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=brukus-motorcycle-parts&pc=12573

Click on the appropriate product link, and you'll see exactly what you get.

I exchanged a few emails with Brukus after getting my set in July, and they went through the machining, etc., involved in the hardware, after I suggested that they might sell more if they lowered the price a bit; they said that their material and machining costs were pretty high, so they couldn't go lower. So, to each his own: you can go the hardware-store route, or Brukus, or do nothing.
 

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I got mine from their site, although I believe there are some motorcycle shops that are dealers.

This is their regular link: http://brukus.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=brukus-motorcycle-parts&pc=12995 ; however, here's the link for VMF members, which will save you a few bucks:

http://brukus.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=brukus-motorcycle-parts&pc=12573

Click on the appropriate product link, and you'll see exactly what you get.

I exchanged a few emails with Brukus after getting my set in July, and they went through the machining, etc., involved in the hardware, after I suggested that they might sell more if they lowered the price a bit; they said that their material and machining costs were pretty high, so they couldn't go lower. So, to each his own: you can go the hardware-store route, or Brukus, or do nothing.
Thanks for the info Bill. Just ordered them and they should be her in 10 days
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These are great and not just for security reasons.... I have a lot more confidence in these than the stock quick release system--relatively cheap insurance for spendy bags. Top shelf hardware and a good design!


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Not a bad solution, however I just bought a right angle ratcheting screwdriver set from Lowes for $10. (great for tight spaces) It includes about 5 or 6 different sizes of "security Torx" bits that fit the screws that are used in the Brukus kit.

Just a heads up, the security screws are readily available from most hardware stores, as are the blind nuts.

I did the same thing to my bags after hearing about them falling off, however I used brass toilet tank to bowl bolts. They have a very shallow head which keeps them low profile and the brass is water and weather proof. I crimped the blind nuts a bit to make the screws an "interference" fit to prevent vibration from loosening them. I wasn't going for security as an anti-theft, but as a "save $1K on a replacement bag" type of security.

I believe I can't really stop someone from taking my bags if they want them bad enough and they have enough time to do so (short of welding them on), but I CAN prevent them from falling off inadvertently.

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Not a bad solution, however I just bought a right angle ratcheting screwdriver set from Lowes for $10. (great for tight spaces) It includes about 5 or 6 different sizes of "security Torx" bits that fit the screws that are used in the Brukus kit.

Just a heads up, the security screws are readily available from most hardware stores, as are the blind nuts.

I did the same thing to my bags after hearing about them falling off, however I used brass toilet tank to bowl bolts. They have a very shallow head which keeps them low profile and the brass is water and weather proof. I crimped the blind nuts a bit to make the screws an "interference" fit to prevent vibration from loosening them. I wasn't going for security as an anti-theft, but as a "save $1K on a replacement bag" type of security.

I believe I can't really stop someone from taking my bags if they want them bad enough and they have enough time to do so (short of welding them on), but I CAN prevent them from falling off inadvertently.

Ride On.
Raccoon,

Just a minor clarification: the Brukus bolts have a pin in the center. The Torx-LIKE tool that they provide has a hollow center, so that its shaft fits over that pin, so that the rest of the tool can engage the rest of the inside of the bolt head. Thus, I'm pretty sure that an ordinary Torx bit won't work on these bolts.

That said, in keeping with what you say, anyone with a pry bar can open the saddlebag lids and get at the contents. Anyone with a knife, screwdriver, key, etc., can damage them big time.

I got my Brukus set shortly after buying my XCT mostly because I read some posts of the stock fasteners coming updone. That is, not only don't I want my bags stolen, I don't want them bouncing down the road, either.

Regarding damaged bags, BTW, I also posted a rant concerning how expensive parts for the bags are (see http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=11516 ), the executive summary of which is that it's cheaper to buy a new set of TWO than to buy parts for ONE bag. Go figure.
 

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Raccoon,

Just a minor clarification: the Brukus bolts have a pin in the center. The Torx-LIKE tool that they provide has a hollow center, so that its shaft fits over that pin, so that the rest of the tool can engage the rest of the inside of the bolt head. Thus, I'm pretty sure that an ordinary Torx bit won't work on these bolts.

That said, in keeping with what you say, anyone with a pry bar can open the saddlebag lids and get at the contents. Anyone with a knife, screwdriver, key, etc., can damage them big time.

I got my Brukus set shortly after buying my XCT mostly because I read some posts of the stock fasteners coming updone. That is, not only don't I want my bags stolen, I don't want them bouncing down the road, either.

Regarding damaged bags, BTW, I also posted a rant concerning how expensive parts for the bags are (see http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=11516 ), the executive summary of which is that it's cheaper to buy a new set of TWO than to buy parts for ONE bag. Go figure.
For clarification, the pin in the head of the "Bruckus" bolt is what makes it a "security Torx".

http://www.widgetsupply.com/product/BCU13.html?gclid=CJu8iJmI1bMCFUxxQgodcBUAsw

If you were led to believe that the Bruckus bolts were manufactured by them to have a pin in the head, you were mistaken. I recently purchased and used a few of these from my LHS to attach my front yard garden hose box to a fence, to help discourage theft.

Hope this clears my previous message up if there was confusion.
 

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For clarification, the pin in the head of the "Bruckus" bolt is what makes it a "security Torx".

http://www.widgetsupply.com/product/BCU13.html?gclid=CJu8iJmI1bMCFUxxQgodcBUAsw

If you were led to believe that the Bruckus bolts were manufactured by them to have a pin in the head, you were mistaken. I recently purchased and used a few of these from my LHS to attach my front yard garden hose box to a fence, to help discourage theft.

Hope this clears my previous message up if there was confusion.
Nope, I wasn't led to believe that - I just assumed it. I didn't know that security Torx were different than just plain ol' Torx. Thanks for the post - I learn something new every day. I sit corrected.
 

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Nope, I wasn't led to believe that - I just assumed it. I didn't know that security Torx were different than just plain ol' Torx. Thanks for the post - I learn something new every day. I sit corrected.
No problem, glad I could inform you. I am a machinist, so hardware like this is kind of up my alley. There are different types of regular torx screws as well. Torx is actually a brand name, and are sometimes called "star" bits.

Here's an interesting Wiki on Torx and other screw drive systems, if you are interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx

The only real "security" type screws that you can readily purchase that I know of anyway, are the "one-way" screws that you would normally see on public bathroom hinges and latches. The driver engages the screw or bolt to tighten it but not to loosen.

Of course this renders the bags non-removable. Not good. :rolleyes:
 

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Here's an interesting Wiki on Torx and other screw drive systems, if you are interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
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Thanks, Raccoon. Oh, I'm interested in this stuff, all right. Four years ago, I started a thread to inform people about JIS screws on a motorcycle (okay, maxi-scooter) forum, here: http://burgmanusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=28818 . I wrote several follow-up posts in that thread, and eventually rode a side-trip of a few hundred miles, in order to show one of the leaders of that forum four different screwdrivers.
 
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