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What has worked for you well enough that you would recommend?

I have not gotten the waxing and polishing bug as many of you have, so to me, a good cleaning product will allow me to clean my bike in a quick and safe manner. Can you recommend anything that works well (be it for paint, engine, wheels, etc.) and is cost effective, and does not require a buffer or spending an entire day detailing.

Are the Original Cleaners products any good?
 

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I will give you my thoughts based off of 25+ years of detailing experience.

To date the best paint products I've found are the Menzerna line. You can use them by hand but work much better with a random orbital machine. It takes me a couple of hours to do a full detail on Porti. I would imagine for an XC it would take about 30 extra minutes with the bags and fairing. You have an XR so maybe 20 minutes.

Here is where I buy it... http://www.properautocare.com/exteriorcare.html

For non painted metal the best I've used is Master's Formula. That stuff is amazing. It gets the best shine with the least amount of work and IMO much better then Mothers with the powerball!! I get my Masters from Cycleops. Check my sig.

For your engine, Pig Spit or S-100.
 

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Great! Thanks.

Any body cleaning products that take 30min total? :) I can't detail my bike for 2.5hrs - I can't be around it for more than 30 minutes without riding it. And as I mentioned, it doesn't have to be waxed and polished to bike show condition. I just want it clean - The daily dust and whatever else the road throws at me (bugs and grime).
 

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Ooooooooooooooooooooohhhh.

Well then, here is what I do. When I don't feel like putting the time in. I wash her with a CAR wash solution, NOT DISH SOAP!! lol

I then throw a coat of Meguiar's NXT on her. For the next 2 or 3 weeks after that I dust her down with a small California Duster then take a detailer spray..all brands seem to work the same to me and spray it on one microfiber rag wipe and go behind it with another dry micro cloth. Takes about 5 minutes max!
 

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I have good results with ProtectAll. Picked it up at local cycle shop. Sprays on, foams up, wipes off. Looks good and does not attract dust like other detail sprays I've used.

http://www.protectall.com/

I did the whole bike in less than an hour.
 

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Ooooooooooooooooooooohhhh.

Well then, here is what I do. When I don't feel like putting the time in. I wash her with a CAR wash solution, NOT DISH SOAP!! lol

I then throw a coat of Meguiar's NXT on her. For the next 2 or 3 weeks after that I dust her down with a small California Duster then take a detailer spray..all brands seem to work the same to me and spray it on one microfiber rag wipe and go behind it with another dry micro cloth. Takes about 5 minutes max!
Yes! That's the stuff they made for lazy folk like me! I do have good car wash solution, a good microfiber sponge, and a chamois, but I cringe at the thought that I am (no matter how careful) splattering water where water's not welcomed. What good is it I don't ride in the rain if I end up pissing water all over the bike? :eek:

Needless to say, I just washed her 2 days ago, and she's getting dusty again. I will try the Meguiar's NXT as you've suggested, and that PIG SPIT not only sounds catchy, but seems to be a good product to have for cleaning the engine and the other stuff that's not wash friendly.

Thank you!
 

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One thing to remember is don't use high pressure when washing. I don't use a nozzle when I wash. Just a nice medium stream and the water runs off better that way.

I don't really care for Chamois I use cotton towels.

Don't forget to dust her first before using a detail spray. Basically not dusting before wiping is like using sand paper on your paint. All that dust gets stuck in the towel and you just sand away on the paint when you wipe.
 

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One thing to remember is don't use high pressure when washing. I don't use a nozzle when I wash. Just a nice medium stream and the water runs off better that way.

I don't really care for Chamois I use cotton towels.

Don't forget to dust her first before using a detail spray. Basically not dusting before wiping is like using sand paper on your paint. All that dust gets stuck in the towel and you just sand away on the paint when you wipe.
Good point. I did use a shower like water spray on it to avoid pushing water in bad places.

Does dusting not scratch the paint? I never used a duster.
 

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Between wax's I use Lucas "Slick Mist" with a micro fiber towel. A clean micro fiber towel is really critical or, like Diamond said, it's like using sandpaper on the clear coat finish.

I'm really impressed with the Slick Mist. I use it everywhere with no issues; even the windshield. It doesn't take much either. Usually I just spray some on the towel and rub it into the finish and it comes out looking like I just waxed it. Well; they do call it a speed wax.

A couple or more times a year it's good to get in there and do it up right with the Menzerna's, if there's swirls, and the NXT wax which is super easy to use. The Metal Polish and Sealer can make upkeep on your wheels much easier and I like easier. Leaves me more time to ride or whatever.
 

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My local Kragen has the Slick Mist, 0.2 miles from my door step. I guess I have to try it :)

Thanks guys.
 

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I use lemon pledge and 2 micro fiber clothes most of the time. For real cleaning I am hooked on S100 and Liquid Ice from turtle wax.
 

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Funny you should mention Pledge. I used it for a long time until I tried the Slick Mist. It's still an excellent product to take on trips where you would like to safely clean the bugs off the shield and any painted parts that get splattered. It comes in a handy small can too.

I think the Turtle Ice and the Mcguires NXT are about equal. JMHO. The S-100 cleaner is excellent. I haven't tried the S-100 that makes the black engine parts look new again but I have read that it attracts dust a bit more than Pig Spit. The Pig Spit is normally used by just spraying it on and letting it dry after wiping off any over spray on the chrome or paint although it won't hurt either one. It can also be used with a stiff brush to take off any wax that might get on the black engine parts. Before Pig Spit/S-100 it was nearly impossible to get the dang stuff off. I imagine, with what we know now, spray silicone would have probably worked though.
 

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Following your advise (BBob and diamond), I have purchased Slick Mist (24oz bottle), 12 microfiber towels, and a California Duster.

Since I'm not willing to regularly wax the bike, is there a paint sealant or other paint protection product you guys can recommend? Something I can apply once a year, and without any power tools - I've never buffed anything so I'm not keen on experimenting on my baby. :)
 

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Once a year?? Those waxes and products that claim that are BS. They will last a year if your vehicle is parked inside on a showroom floor!!

If you ride your bike wash and wax it once a month.

Meguiars NXT is a darn good long lasting wax.
 

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Once a year?? Those waxes and products that claim that are BS. They will last a year if your vehicle is parked inside on a showroom floor!!

If you ride your bike wash and wax it once a month.

Meguiars NXT is a darn good long lasting wax.
I plan on washing once a month, but I'm a stubborn donkey when it comes to waxing... Maybe I just have to overcome my fear, get my feet wet, and learn how to wax. :eek:
 

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To wash and wax your bike should take no more than an hour and thats if you take your time.

Realistically it would take me about 30 minutes.
 

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Waxing with the NXT is child's play; just like Diamond said. Washing a bike with a hose, clean wet towel, and a chamois can take a while if done right. :)

Yeah, seriously, a quick 30 minutes is all it takes to wax the bike by hand. The NXT is that good. I think the Turtle Wax Ice is similar.
 

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Wolfgang and/or Klasse paint sealants

I really appreciate your help, guys, as I am a total dummy on this subject. And while I don't mean to be disrespectful at all, I do feel like the baby chick asking the older birds if flapping the wings is really necessary. That being said, I will proceed to ask my questions in hopes you don't give up on me. Here it goes: Have you used the Wolfgang and/or Klasse paint sealant? Do you recommend against those products, and why? :confused:
 
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