In April I bought a Hammer 8 Ball, I LOVE IT. My buddy wanted a bike just like mine. I showed him an ad for an 8 Ball Vision with 200 miles on it for cheap !! He rode many crotch rockets, and was looking for something new.He took his wife for a test ride and they fell in love, but the bike was sadly already sold. He went to school with the salesman at Turn One, and he told the guy to find a Vision 8 Ball( I wish I had one, they are beautiful) .Well they found one for him and he bought it, his brother-in-law, fell in love and rides it, He is gonna let me ride it, but I'm not sure I want to. If my wife rides on it, my Hammer will have to go Anyways, I got a friend to buy a Victory!!!