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Just ordered and Paypalled Jack at RoadsterCycle for the Shindengen SH847 Super Kit, Series type Regulator/Rectifier.
Cranked the order up to Priority shipping so now the wait...... .... ..

oh yeah the link 53canuck sent did work at home, couldnt find an Aussie supplier of the Series type but.
 

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Out and about on the 1980 Vintage Honda C90,
90cc of raw power! Thinking of a big bore to 125cc and some cams and a big zorst pipe but worried it might start popping:devil
Here I am at Vinnys Pizza waiting for an extra hot El Paso
My trusty steed awaits a kick of the right boot to stir those ponies into life.
Ahhh the motorcycling life!!!
 

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Yeah mate, the LEDs, Much cheaper than the same product from other places
LED 52mm-58mm Fork Turn Signal Light Smoked Lens For Hammer&Kingpin&Motorcycle | eBay

And the brackets, I ordered chrome but they have em in black....and cheap as!

Pair Motorcycle Chrome Turn Signal Mounting Brackets Fork Clamps Ear 30-45mm | eBay

While I'm at it this is the Kingpin fender I bought
06 Polaris Victory Kingpin front fender | eBay

And an El cheap Chinese fender, in stainless, great value!
Probably made by some poor kid in a sweatshop somewhere but they do give em rice.
Quite well made and adaptable to any forks really, you couldn't make it for $21 and that shipping included!

Motorcycle Modified Stainless Steel Front Mud Guards Splash Guard for CM
Now that is GOOD INFO.... really cool stuff MbX.... I like this.... Thanks for the info mate..

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My you beaut regulator arrived this morning.
As auto electrician is not my calling in life I'm gonna wait a little longer for a mate who installs alarms to ome over and do the wiring connection.
I know my limits and electrics on my bike is one of them.
Dont wanna be left in the dark in the middle of nowhere.
My front axle has arrived this morning too so I can get tje bike up on the jack ans start on it.
Having the bike up in the air will no doubt help with the regulator install too.
The kit came with wiring back to the battery and included another 30 amp relay similar to the one already on the bike.
 

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Ok all fixed...well the regulator anyway, put off the forks cos i was hangin out to ride!
Shindengen SH847 Super Kit arrived this morning
This arvo jacked bike up removed old original regulator and worked out best way to mount the new one was sideways to best fit.
Drilled a few holes and extended the old mount at the front used new bolts and nylock nuts.
While I was doing that my mate was joining up the connectors.
Fitted up nicely and with it mounted sideways the cooling fins now are in line with airflow, wires are all cable tied up out of the way and the bike is performing well.
Just did a night test ride and all is good.
USD Kingpin forks I may fit on Thursday when I have the whole day free to pull the bike down.
 
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Nice going MbX, another problem fixed....

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OK WAKING UP THIS OLD THREAD!!!......cos I have similar problem on HCs old Kingpin, Engine Light, Low Beam Flashing....Thought the new battery was suss, Took it over to the battery shop that is mainly a race car fabrication shop that also specialises in batteries.


Just tested the battery, its at 12.6 volts, but the bikes not charging it up.
stayed on 12.6 even revving it to 4K made no difference.
I need to check the regulator output, pretty sure @half_crazy upgraded to a Mosfet at some stage, as I did on my Vegas a while back. (above thread)
Ill have to do a search on both forums to try and find the test procedure for the regulator.
Any ideas or links to speed this up?
(at least Ive found this old thread)
How in SIMPLE terms do I test this regulator so I dont start the process of buying something I maybe dont need??
 

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The battery needs to be confirmed as fine prior to testing as it can effect the results if it's not. Voltage and load test. If the system is working properly you should be measuring 14.2 to 14.6 at the battery with the bike running.

Basically, the battery is there only to get you started and the stator provides all the power once the bike is running. In fact it supplies too much power which is why it needs to be controlled or regulated to the proper voltage for the battery. It just tops it up to replace the power you used to start the bike. Not quite as there are other functions but it's a good place to start.

When testing you are checking the diodes of the regulator for an open or short and the output of the stator which will get higher as the revs do. Already you've got a problem if you're not measuring over 14v on the battery with the bike running. Either the battery is bad and the regulator can't top it up or one of the diodes or its wiring is bad or the stator supply is down. Watch these a couple of times and they'll make sense. Same process on a car except there it's an alternator or generator.


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Thanks tested the stator , its good....Tested the regulator its ok on one side but not on the other.
Gonna order an SH847 kit off Jack at Roadstercycle, thats who I got the last one for the Vegas off.
Thought this yellow bike had one too, but its an oval sort of shape, on my laptop now so cant upload a pic of it,
can go to my phone and do it though.
Looking at my posts from the Vegas it took nearly 3 weeks to arrrive from the U.S. and with the flu scamdemic it may take longer...Just as well I got the XC to ride, gonna park the yellow Kingpin just when I was getting used to it.
They say a bad battery can cause the regulator to poo itself so I guess thats whats happened.
 

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OK WAKING UP THIS OLD THREAD!!!......cos I have similar problem on HCs old Kingpin, Engine Light, Low Beam Flashing....Thought the new battery was suss, Took it over to the battery shop that is mainly a race car fabrication shop that also specialises in batteries.


Just tested the battery, its at 12.6 volts, but the bikes not charging it up.
stayed on 12.6 even revving it to 4K made no difference.
I need to check the regulator output, pretty sure @half_crazy upgraded to a Mosfet at some stage, as I did on my Vegas a while back. (above thread)
Ill have to do a search on both forums to try and find the test procedure for the regulator.
Any ideas or links to speed this up?
(at least Ive found this old thread)
How in SIMPLE terms do I test this regulator so I dont start the process of buying something I maybe dont need??
Could you bring your battery to that shop and do a crank-test so you can see the CCC values ( one in a thousand it could be a bad battery )

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Could you bring your battery to that shop and do a crank-test so you can see the CCC values ( one in a thousand it could be a bad battery )

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Its not charging..Ive tested the stator and regulator and the regulator has blown diodes
So I gotta upgrade to a SH847 like I did on the Vegas or..HC informs me the unit on the Kingpin is a Harley Softail unit.
So thats an option too...if it was good enough for HC then its probably good enough for me.
My research tells me battery failure brings on regulator failure and it had a flat battery at the shop before I picked it up.
Dunno what went on at the shop and it dont really matter, bikes broken its gotta be fixed.
 

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1. A low battery that is too far gone to recover. Various causes from age to heat to trips too short to properly recharge.
2. Loose or corroded connectors/clamps from the regulator or on the battery.

Both factors create resistance to the charge which causes the regulator to work too hard for too long to try to get the battery charged. The heat created in the overworking regulator is what usually fries it. (and heat off the road for the southern riders which highlights it's questionable placement on the Vics)

Obviously the harley parts aren't adequate and was installed because of convenience or cost. Don't rely on one as a permanent replacement or you'll find yourself stranded in one of those places with strange names you mention.
 

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Like Woodenbong ya mean?😂
Looking on fleabay I can get a used HD reg for $45
Last SH847 I bought years ago was from memory around $350 Aussie dollars landed and took 3 weeks to get here, pre - flu.
 

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And now I know how to test them
 

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You did charge and load test the battery?
 

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You did charge and load test the battery?
I tested the diodes in the regulator and it came up bung.
That's good enough for me.
New upgrade from Jack at Roadstercycle on it's way.
That's what I had on my Vegas too...
 
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