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Hi All,

One of the Victory Demo Trucks was at the local dealer this weekend & I demo'd a couple Cross Countrys.

Just for comparison, I've got a 2004 Yamaha Roadstar Silverado that's been upgraded some. It's got a ported intake manifold, big air kit, V&H ProPipe (2-into-1) exhaust, performance valve springs, HSR42 performance carb, performance ignition box. As for ergo's, it's also got a mustang seat, floorboard extensions, Baron BigJohnson handlebars (39" wide), and the stock Silverado Windsheild. Now that you know what I'm used to riding, here are my impressions of the Cross Country...

#1 - Love the size of the cross country. I'm 6'3, 225+ lbs, 36" inseam and longer than average reach. The CC is nicely set up out of the box for me. Still could use some hwy pegs, but handlebar position and length of floorboards are nice.
#2 - Loved the ride. The bikes just rolled along nicely and felt very smooth. Nothing to complain about at all.
#3 - Love the cornering and handling. The bike seamed to love corners & I'm a fairly aggressive rider. I love the corners and scrape the floorboards all the time on the Roadstar. I didn't get too aggressive with the CC but I did try lean it over a few times to a point where the Roady would have scraped plenty. I did notice that slow speed parking lot or U-turn stuff wasn't quite what I'm used to though. That's probably just me though as the Roady has really wide bars and slow parking lot stuff is super simple on it. I'd have to get used to the CC's bars & I'm sure the slow speed stuff would get better.
#4 - Power... not bad. Doesn't have the low end "off the bottom" torque I'm used to with the Roady. The Roadstar pulls like a tractor. The bike has to get up into it's power before you feel it pull. Very smooth power delivery though and good power once over 2500 rpms. I'd imagine that there'd be some good improvement with a pipe and aircleaner upgrade. Doesn't need much more, would just like to wake up what it feels like it should have. How well does the stage one set work for that???
#5 - Sound of the bike needs a little improving. The stock pipes sound kinda like... uh... stock pipes. At least its got more sound than a GoldThing. Would really like to hear what the Stage 1 setup sound like on this thing.
#6 - Wind protection... This is my #1 question for all you folks... WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT??? I DON'T GET IT... I rode two CC's, one with just the stock windshield & one with the tall windshield and lower deflectors. Personally, the stock windshield was better for me. It doesn't have any more wind buffeting than my Roadstar at all. The bike with the tall windshield and lowers blocked too much wind & was much warmer feeling than the stock set up. I like a little breeze in my face and don't like feeling like I'm in a bubble. Maybe I'm weird, but isn't that was riding a bike is about? If I don't want some wind in my face than I'd be looking at a Goldwing. I really don't have anything to complain about with the wind protection. If I were to change the windshield it'd be for a smoked CeeBailey's just because they look better.
#7 - The passendger seat??? Like I said, I did ride two CC's, one had the backrest and one had the trunk. The one with the backrest was much better than the trunk for the wife. Neither setup had as much room as the Roadstar for her. She felt there was more room with backrest & more comfortable compared to the trunk. The trunk setup is too upright for her, too cramped and too hot. It was about 80 degrees out & she felt too hot with the trunk surrounding her. The only thing she liked about the trunk was the speakers and the sound system sounded better because of it.

Overall, I really liked the CC. It handles great, is comfortable even for taller riders, decent power and I like that it doesn't look like George Jettson's Vision. Now where did I put that extra 20g's I had in my wallet?
 

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Nice write up Steve. Now look under the matress for that 20Gs and buy one.:ltr:
 

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I have the stage 1 kit installed(pipes, tune, air filter) and it is only slightly louder than the stock pipes. The stage 1 tune is a nice upgrade as there is no popping on my bike with the O2s disconnected and air filter seal removed.....very smooth. I kept my stock pipes as I may send these out to be recored, just trying to figure out who I want to do this for me. Looking for best combination of sound/performance.
 

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What's the purpose of disconnecting the O2 sensors? I've seen this in a few other posts, but haven't heard about why people do this. Also the air filter seal mod, whats that one about?
 

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Disconnecting the O2s will make it run richer, I'm told around 13.4 AFR instead of 14.7. I believe they run them lean stock to comply with EPA rules/regulations. An air/oil cooled engine will benefit from running a little bit richer for engine longevity and cooler running temps.. The air filter seal between the front/bottom of the gas tank and air intake is removed to help increase air flow for better response.
 

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Nice write up Steve.

Did you take the bike with the low windshield at sustained speeds above 55mph?

My first and only bike is my Jackpot. I thought everyone was being a baby complaining about the wind buffeting from the XC.

I'm thinking I've done 400 mile rides and I don't have any wind protection on Porti.

Then I jumped on a demo XC with the short windscreen. The route we took was great and I still did ot understand all the whining.

Then we jumped on the highway. GOODLAWD!!!! I thought my head was going to blow off. It was horrible. I literally laid down on the tank ALA crotch rocket style to avoid the buffeting.

The buffeting is way different from being in the wind.
 

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I did ride one with the short windshield. I also did get out on the freeway for a few miles & rode at over 65mph. Really calm day though with no wind to speak of... maybe that'd make a difference for the buffeting. Maybe a longer ride on a day with some wind may change how the buffeting hits me? I also had my Bell half helmet on that day. I wore that one because it can catch some wind and it'd be more effected by buffeting than one of my full-face helmets.

I'm just comparing it to what I get with the Roadstar & I've heard lots of complaints about the buffeting on that bike. I've never really had an issue with it. Maybe I'm just used to buffeting?
 

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Oh Ya!!! One more thing... the BAGS! Damn they are huge! Wasn't really able to test to see what I could fit, but it looks like they can fit quite a bit. How much stuff can you really fit into these things? A few days of clothes and stuff for a trip? Anyone have the liners for them? How do you like 'em.
 

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Oh Ya!!! One more thing... the BAGS! Damn they are huge! Wasn't really able to test to see what I could fit, but it looks like they can fit quite a bit. How much stuff can you really fit into these things? A few days of clothes and stuff for a trip? Anyone have the liners for them? How do you like 'em.
Do a search on liners. Several companies including Victory sell them. I have the TLC brand. Reasonably priced and good quality. I can pack several days worth of clothes, my meds AND my netbook in one. Pull it out and carry it into your motel room. That leaves the other bag free for tools, gloves, glasses... you get the idea.
 

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Nice, yet another plus for this bike. Great!?! Are there any reasons this bike may be a bad idea? Haven't found my extra 20g's yet. Guess I'm gonna have to keep looking.
 
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