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I am looking to replace my stock Dunlop Elite 3 front tire and D417 rear tire on my 2008 Vegas Low. I am leaning hard toward the Dunlop ( Harley ) D407 & D408 combination because of the multi tread compound. Have called Dunlop just got a recording with no call back yet. My question is: Harley designates the front tire as an MH 90/ 21. Is that tire a 90/90/21 which is the stock tire size for the Vegas or is it an 80/90/21? If it is an 80/90/21 will that cause a problem. I have been hearing about Dunlop making MT tires for Victory bikes but the only ones I can find for my Vegas are the Harley brand. Thanks for your help!
 

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Per the owner's manual:

Front: 90/90-21 Dunlop Elite 3
Rear:: 180/55B18 Dunlop D417
 

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Thanks for the replies! Dunlop called back and the MH 90/21 is an 80/90/21. Harley shops don't want to put tires on a Victory. Local Victory shop wont mount tires unless you buy them from them. I have called five other shops they won't mount them unless you buy them from them. One last chance with Victory dealer 50miles away. Worst comes to worst I will install OEM tires at dealer that is 50 miles away. Local Victory dealer is always higher priced and doesn't have time to talk to you. When I bought my bike I went in three times and no one even approached me so I bought elsewhere. Thanks again for your help.
 

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Try looking around close to home. If I wanted them to do it a Honda dealer would change tires on my Vic. Most places also have independent mechanics unaffiliated with any dealer. In general they have no problem no matter what brand you are riding. The price for mounting a tire you bought elsewhere might be higher just because they will no longer make any profit on the tire itself but why not ask them to order and price match the tire you want?
Just some food for thought here.
 

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407 and Elite 3

Went to Local Harley Dealer and bought D407 rear tire for my 2008 Vegas Low. Really nice guys took time to answer my questions and sold me the tire for $199.95 plus tax, $211 total. I decided to go with the Elite 3 front OEM tire 90/90/21 instead of Harley D408f which is an 80/90/21. Harley dealer would mount tire but only if I took off bike which I did not want to do. The parts dept. even called a couple of independents to see if they would remove and mount the tire for me. The Local Victory dealer (5 miles from my house) would not install rear tire even though I was buying 90/90/21 Elite 3 from them. They would not install any tire not bought from them at any price. Also their price on the Elite 3 and D417 OEM tires and installation was about $100 hire than two other Victory dealers in Maine. I was not surprised because they are very independent and I have never been able to business with them. The local Harley dealer (which is less than one mile from the local Victory dealer) said they were not surprised to hear my story. They said they sell quite a few tires for Victories because others seem to have same problem with local Vic dealer that I have. So I tied my D407 to my backrest and around my chest and drove 45 miles to Mainly Action sports in Oxford, Maine. Really great dealer. Left at 8:30 AM 28 degrees and froze my Arse off. Dealer installed rear tire along with the Elite 3 front tire I bought from them at $162.00 plus tax. Removed front and rear wheel $68.00 dollars, free mount and balance on front tire I bought from them, charged $50.00 to mount and balance rear tire I did not buy from them which was fine as that price equaled the $250.00 I would have paid for the OEM D417 from the dealer. Also engine light was coming on so had them check it out. As I assumed voltage regulator was bad. So I spent another $175.00 plus about $18.00 for labor to install it. Also had state inspection done $12.50. All work done while I waited in less than two hours. Tech and owner of Dealership talked to me and offered me several options if I did not want to do all the work that day. I told them to do it all as I was going out of town for work and wanted the bike ready to ride when I returned. Total at Good Victory Dealer $509.00. with Harley tire $719.0 Bike registered, new tires, new voltage regulator, one more year of insurance about a Grand! Ride home temp up to 41 degrees and ready for another season - PRICELESS!!! Stopped for a coffee on Turnpike and a guy says to me, are you riding the bike. Yup. He said I am from South Carolina and I rode my bike in Maine last summer and I was cold then, You are nuts. Told him 41 degrees was pretty nice in the sun compared to my morning ride at 28 degrees. Bike handled great on ride home. Only time will tell how the D407 will hold up. Can't wait to tell my Harley friends I switched and I am finally riding on a Harley! :ltr:
 

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Went to Local Harley Dealer and bought D407 rear tire for my 2008 Vegas Low. Really nice guys took time to answer my questions and sold me the tire for $199.95 plus tax, $211 total. I decided to go with the Elite 3 front OEM tire 90/90/21 instead of Harley D408f which is an 80/90/21. Harley dealer would mount tire but only if I took off bike which I did not want to do. The parts dept. even called a couple of independents to see if they would remove and mount the tire for me. The Local Victory dealer (5 miles from my house) would not install rear tire even though I was buying 90/90/21 Elite 3 from them. They would not install any tire not bought from them at any price. Also their price on the Elite 3 and D417 OEM tires and installation was about $100 hire than two other Victory dealers in Maine. I was not surprised because they are very independent and I have never been able to business with them. The local Harley dealer (which is less than one mile from the local Victory dealer) said they were not surprised to hear my story. They said they sell quite a few tires for Victories because others seem to have same problem with local Vic dealer that I have. So I tied my D407 to my backrest and around my chest and drove 45 miles to Mainly Action sports in Oxford, Maine. Really great dealer. Left at 8:30 AM 28 degrees and froze my Arse off. Dealer installed rear tire along with the Elite 3 front tire I bought from them at $162.00 plus tax. Removed front and rear wheel $68.00 dollars, free mount and balance on front tire I bought from them, charged $50.00 to mount and balance rear tire I did not buy from them which was fine as that price equaled the $250.00 I would have paid for the OEM D417 from the dealer. Also engine light was coming on so had them check it out. As I assumed voltage regulator was bad. So I spent another $175.00 plus about $18.00 for labor to install it. Also had state inspection done $12.50. All work done while I waited in less than two hours. Tech and owner of Dealership talked to me and offered me several options if I did not want to do all the work that day. I told them to do it all as I was going out of town for work and wanted the bike ready to ride when I returned. Total at Good Victory Dealer $509.00. with Harley tire $719.0 Bike registered, new tires, new voltage regulator, one more year of insurance about a Grand! Ride home temp up to 41 degrees and ready for another season - PRICELESS!!! Stopped for a coffee on Turnpike and a guy says to me, are you riding the bike. Yup. He said I am from South Carolina and I rode my bike in Maine last summer and I was cold then, You are nuts. Told him 41 degrees was pretty nice in the sun compared to my morning ride at 28 degrees. Bike handled great on ride home. Only time will tell how the D407 will hold up. Can't wait to tell my Harley friends I switched and I am finally riding on a Harley! :ltr:
You will really like the D407's performance and longevity. It really is a good tire.
 

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D407

thumb up Thanks for the input blueracer17. I have read good things on the forum about the D407 so that is why I decided to give it a try. Thanks again. Ride safe.
 

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The D407 on my weighs a ton Ultra has over 20,000 on it. The D408 on the front has more.
 

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Hardly name = $$

lots of better tires out there for sure. any spec tire will cost more. dunlops wear long but give up traction + handling, metzlers + michelin could be a good alternative. looking on avon's site will show alternative fitments, they show recommended rims for said tire sizes. i prefer traction + handling as it can save your skin!! your choice for sure + shop on-line for best $$$
 

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According to many people, the Metzlers and Michelins are hard compounds with poor grip. I never found my ME880s were bad on my HDs but I am no tire expert and I do not push to the edge of the grip on my tires. I like to leave plenty of performance cushion.
 

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Opinion on bridgestones

Need to replace both tires on 05 Kingpin. Looking at Bridgestone radials. Any opinions? Price is way less than most others and had good luck with the bias on other bikes in the past
 

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I have the 407 / 408 combo and it's a world of difference from the stock set. I noticed an immediate improvement in cornering grip, so much so that initially I thought the tires would be too soft and not last but after hearing all the reviews I am expecting them to go a bit further than the stock Dunlops. It really was a good purchase in my opinion I'm very happy with them.

The stock set had too much slipping in the curves, on my rice rocket this was expected and normal but I don't like it on a cruiser especially with the wife on the back moving around and pointing at things and yakking my ear off. The 407 / 408 dun lops have none of that very solid and reassuring
 
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