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morning all, apologies for the length of this post but its best that all be explained correctly.

2001 v92sc, 1200 miles has been in storage for last 3 years, working perfectly when parked, fuel drained, oil in bores, battery removed and bike covered.

3 weeks ago, remove from storage after relocating countries, new battery, clean all electrical connections and run through some pre start items, remove plugs, oil in bores before cranking etc. Notice no fuel pump buzz on ign, run through tests and fuel pump is shot. To be expected. New pump and filter from the Vic Shop (thanks Rylan) Fill with about 3-4l of fuel and crank over to get going. Cranking fine but no start. Suffice to say after a few more tests i am stumped. just to some up this it what i do have and you will see my confusion.

- new fuel pump and filter.
- healthy spark at plugs (checked when removed)
-147psi cyl 1and 155psi cyl 2 compression
- wet plugs with fuel (removed and checked after cranking)
- unrestricted air intake and exhaust system (no blockages)
- new battery and electrical connections all checked (good earths on block, spark plug tubes etc)
- all electrics working as should and relays checked

Anything here i could have possibly missed? I have the FSM, but it seems to me I have all the ingredients for a bang but its not happening:confused:

thanks in advance
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Usually when all is as you say there is a "spark" missing. I would run through the various tests for that starting with the plugs themselves... working back to the coil.
 

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Hi Handy,
Plenty of spark there as mentioned. When plugs were out tested both and a nice healthy spark from the electrode when grounded.

Hence my confusion.

Note/ just double checked again and also checked coil resistance and all within specs

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Put in NEW plugs.I have seen where plugs wouldnt fire good under compression
 

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try starter fluid, if it fires then you are not getting fuel. Sometimes oil in the cylinder fouls the plugs.Blow out the cylinders and put new plugs in.
 

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are you sure the plugs aren't wet from the oil in the cylinders? i would pull them and crank it a few times to blow the oil out if you haven't already, then put in new plugs.
 

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Thanks all,

Ftwflh, they will be on next shopping list from USA if necessary, electrodes still immaculate at the moment and no degradation and gap spot on. Not available in the middle east unfortunately.
Gibson,Plugs cleaned with wire brush and then regapped correctly. No starter fluid available either, was going to squirt a little fuel into cyl to double check but with the plugs wet after cleaning and cranking each time that somewhat redundant.
Rides little, yep all done and cleaned out when pulled each time after trying to start up.
That was my first thought as well.

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Try putting the spark plug in the spark plug wire without screwing it in the engine and try starting the engine-see if the plug is sparking. That should show you if it's getting spark.
 

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Try putting the spark plug in the spark plug wire without screwing it in the engine and try starting the engine-see if the plug is sparking. That should show you if it's getting spark.
I think he did say he has spark , but I am betting not at the right moment . Plugs can spark all day long but if they aren't firing on the compression stroke , it ain't gonna run:)


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Yep, plenty of spark there and the wires cannot be crossed due the length from coils. I just cannot understand how the timing would change after just being stationary for a period as its a chain drive from crank to cams and nothing has been played with I was going to pull the crank position sensor tomorrow but just on the electrical tests it checks out.

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Quit spraying stuff in the cylinders quit it.
Now new spark plugs. Wet plugs will not fire and a wire brush does no good it will do harm. Buy more then one pair.
Now keep your hand off the throttle. It will not help with you pumping the throttle.
If your getting spark at the plugs and the fuel pump is working now look for something ells.
Does headlight come on when you turn key on does headlight go out when you crank motor. Battery might not have full charge.
Did you test fuel pump to see if it is pumping. With you spraying stuff in cylinder you'll never know.
Turn key on wait ten seconds shut key off now do this three more time to make sure fuel pump is primed with no air in it.
You might even want to replace all fusses and what ever relay.
Are you in neutral
 

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Vision johnny,
Nothing has been sprayed in cyls at all apart from 2 squirts from oil can of ATF initially to provide bore lube and free up rings after sitting for so long. Plugs dry until after cranking Not pumping throttle. Headlight on and staying on whilst cranking, yes in neutral, battery voltage at 12.7. Fuel pump fine and filter new. Priming fine and fuel exiting from return line to tank when primed. All fuses and relays are good and tested.
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Yep, plenty of spark there and the wires cannot be crossed due the length from coils. I just cannot understand how the timing would change after just being stationary for a period as its a chain drive from crank to cams and nothing has been played with I was going to pull the crank position sensor tomorrow but just on the electrical tests it checks out.

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I don't know your bike's system but you mentioned you cleaned all the connectors. Could you have swapped the connectors at the coil?
 

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Hi Gibson, yeah really hot in the summer mate but a lot nicer place than Dubai. That is miserable riding weather. That's why the bike went into storage. Riding is like being sandblasted every time you go out. Oman at least has some coast and mountains which makes for nice riding rather than sand. The time zone is a problem when it comes to things like this as I'm going to bed when you guys are getting up.
Goat locker , are you sure you are not a new zealander? Seriously though all connections are where they should be and still sealed.

An update however, I managed to track down some Harley plugs which are the equivalent to run a test and still the same. I am starting to lean back towards the fuel side of things and maybe blocked injectors or regulator although that is quite unusual. Especially as pump and filter is brand new so fuel pressure and flow should be fine.

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you've got a stumper there, any chance your injectors could be stuck open, flooding it?
 

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Sorry for delay, work interfering with my social life again. Still no joy with it yet. Am going to have another go today and just double check everything. The new plugs made no difference at all. If I can find a fuel pressure gauge that may be the next test even though is new.

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