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Hi, I am a retired army guy now living in Taiwan. I've set my mind on buying a bigger motorcycle but here they are around double, sometimes more, than what we would pay in the US or Europe.

For example, I am aware of a Highball that could be for sale. New here it would have cost a whopping $29,000 US. This one is 2013, 17,000 kms and is still $14,800 US. That for me is a lot of money to spend and with Polaris's decision about the brand I am really at a loss as to whether I would dare go for it. It seems an incredible amount of money compared to new prices elsewhere, and now with the plug pulled....! Any advice?

To give other examples, an Indian Scout Sixty here costs about $22600 US, and even a HD 750 Street is $17,400 US or thereabouts.

Like I said in my first line, I am just a retired army guy, retired after 33 years service, so I do have to consider possible re-sale values if I decide to leave Taiwan in 3/4/5 years and return west.

I know this is meant to just be an introduction but I am making the 4 hour round trip to the Indian/Victory and the HD dealerships tomorrow, so any advice would be great.
 

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Hi, I am a retired army guy now living in Taiwan. I've set my mind on buying a bigger motorcycle but here they are around double, sometimes more, than what we would pay in the US or Europe.

For example, I am aware of a Highball that could be for sale. New here it would have cost a whopping $29,000 US. This one is 2013, 17,000 kms and is still $14,800 US. That for me is a lot of money to spend and with Polaris's decision about the brand I am really at a loss as to whether I would dare go for it. It seems an incredible amount of money compared to new prices elsewhere, and now with the plug pulled....! Any advice?

To give other examples, an Indian Scout Sixty here costs about $22600 US, and even a HD 750 Street is $17,400 US or thereabouts.

Like I said in my first line, I am just a retired army guy, retired after 33 years service, so I do have to consider possible re-sale values if I decide to leave Taiwan in 3/4/5 years and return west.

I know this is meant to just be an introduction but I am making the 4 hour round trip to the Indian/Victory and the HD dealerships tomorrow, so any advice would be great.
Don't go near a 750 Street.
Ride the Highball, then buy it.
 

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That's a tough check to cash knowing Polaris killed off Victory. As much as I love mine I would have to think long and hard about dropping that kind of money on one in your situation.

I would be more worried about getting parts and support if needed than I am here. However, if the dealer seems good and could put me at ease about parts and service it's only money so I'd go for it.

I'm curious though as to what is the most reasonably priced option you have there that's not a scooter?
 

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It seems that any of the imported big bikes are stupidly expensive. You don't see so many motorcycles here (as you understood - mainly scooters, which are cheap), but those you do see are usually Japanese which are a lot cheaper unless they are personal imports, Goldwings, Yama V-stars etc, all seem to be imported and therefore $$$$$$
 

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....sorry, meant to say "yes" it is a dream motorcycle, and I would dearly love it, no question, but to sink nearly $15000 into a 4 year old Victory is a hard thing for me to accept, especially in these circumstances since the announcement, and if I wanted to sell it, maybe to emigrate back west in a few years time, or even if I decided for whatever reason that I wanted a change.... well yes, it's only money, but I am just a retired military guy! We only have the one dealer in the whole country, and no specialist suppliers of course, and even for HD I think we only have 3 dealers!
 

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....sorry, meant to say "yes" it is a dream motorcycle, and I would dearly love it, no question, but to sink nearly $15000 into a 4 year old Victory is a hard thing for me to accept, especially in these circumstances since the announcement, and if I wanted to sell it, maybe to emigrate back west in a few years time, or even if I decided for whatever reason that I wanted a change.... well yes, it's only money, but I am just a retired military guy! We only have the one dealer in the whole country, and no specialist suppliers of course, and even for HD I think we only have 3 dealers!
Don't ride it unless you're ready to buy it.

Only you can know what is right. If you decide against it I'm sure you'll be able to find a nice one in a few years if you come back state side.

Keep us posted and take some pics of the dealer. That would be interesting to see.
 

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Don't ride it unless you're ready to buy it.

Only you can know what is right. If you decide against it I'm sure you'll be able to find a nice one in a few years if you come back state side.

Keep us posted and take some pics of the dealer. That would be interesting to see.
I agree with MBX and would really like to see what the dealership over there looks like.
Welcome from Tulsa and thank you for your Service

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Ride everything in your price range and let the bikes tell you which is best. Prices suck but that also means your resale in 3 or 4 years should recoup a large portion of your investment.
 

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The quality of bike you choose depends on the quality of retirement you want. You didn't say if you are married or if a bike would be your sole mode of transport. The answers to those two would temper my answer.
 

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That's a big wad of your hard earned military pay for any bike with all the added import fees and taxes. Not to mention one that is now out of production. If I had any visions of returning stateside I'd forgo the big expenditure until l migrated westward. Just have to argue with yourself and listen to the little voice in the back of your head. Go with your gut feeling. My motto for deciding on any big ticket item; if it don't feel good, don't do it.
 

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There all good quality bikes. But where can you get the best service and parts should be almost more important then what you buy. Victory will not be a good deal cause parts will be harder to get. Keep in mind coast if you order stuff off ebay.
What part of Taiwan do you live in.
 

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Hi.. thanks for your service brother! Welcome to Vic forums. I hope you are happy with whatever you buy

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It seems you are a victim of the ridiculous trade deals we have made in the past. Over here a Taiwan made Kymco or Sym scooter ( most excellent scooters by the way ) can be had quite cheap as we put no import fees on them. You are in a country that makes no serious motorcycles but puts a tariff of close to 100 percent on American made bikes. No what fool in the trade negotiations made that deal? My college profs in the 70s use to say we had the most stupid trade reps. in the world. I think Trump pointed that out many times also. If you want a motorcycle look at either Yamaha or Honda as they are probably much more reasonable and they and parts will be easy to get. Or get a Kymco scooter and join the crowd. The Downtown 300i will go darn near 90 and the bigger 500 will do 100. If you get back to the States ( thanks for the service ) then a Victory can surely be had most reasonable.
 

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Thanks, but that is my biggest worry.
It would be a dream come true to buy this, really, and I know I would absolutely love it. But I am paying a high price now, and I am just struggling to believe resale prices in 3 or 4 years time will be correspondingly high. I am of course referring to Taiwan where we have just the one dealer (who does seem EXCELLENT), no specialist parts suppliers, and dare I say this in public - I hope I am wrong, but i SUSPECT that many of those who can afford these crazy prices here are wealthy guys who want a toy to pose on, rather than hard core bikers who wouldn't mind hunting down parts and importing them at considerable cost, and getting their hands dirty. OF COURSE there are exceptions to that awful generalisation, but in 3 or 4 years time, out of the already small market for "heavy motorcycles" (as they are classified here), how many will choose a Victory when they can buy an Indian or Harley and just go to their main dealer? If I was in the US or Europe I wouldn't hesitate, but here...... well, yesterday I emailed the dealer and told him I would need a very, very attractive price on the bike. I doubt he can come down though - it is a customer's bike, and that customer paid a huge original purchase price, so am sure he will be very reluctant to drop the price as low as I would want. We will see today!
 

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ForestGiant, LOL - yes, I know what you mean. I already have a 125cc Yamaha scooter and for every day buzzing around it is great and there must be 4 or 5 Yamaha scooter dealers within 10 minutes ride from home! But...haha.... you know it!
 

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Hi VisionJohnny and Maddog USMC - thanks so much for your comments. I live in the north, Taoyuan County. USMC - my last op tour was in Afgh' in Helmand, based in Camp Bastion in which was the USMC base, Camp Leatherneck. They gave me a cover which I still wear with pride around here! I was Brit military, started my career with Gurkhas in Hong Kong, and ended it with a 3 year tour with Gurkhas in Nepal before volunteering for my final op tour in Afgh prior to early retirement, 33 years in total, excluding school. I miss the military camaraderie greatly, especially here in Taiwan.
 

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RICZ - yes, I am married and my wife doesn't really "get it"! But she didn't "get" my gorgeous 64 Malibu SS that I last had in UK either. And it is our 20th Wedding anniversary in Sept so maybe this is my present (to myself), LOL. We have a Ford Escape for every day transportation (good, by yawn!).
 

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RICZ - yes, I am married and my wife doesn't really "get it"! But she didn't "get" my gorgeous 64 Malibu SS that I last had in UK either. And it is our 20th Wedding anniversary in Sept so maybe this is my present (to myself), LOL. We have a Ford Escape for every day transportation (good, by yawn!).
Now that I know you are married, I'm going to pull my age card here. Unless you are swimming in a huge pool of money, listen to your brain and your wife and not your ego. You say you're going to be in the States in 3 to 5 years - that's a pittance from my perspective - and a Victory, or whatever you're lusting after at the moment, will be infinitely more affordable and a more intelligent thing to do. So enjoy that scooter and ride the wheels off of it - its affordable and serviceable. 125cc not enough? Go for a 500 - its affordable and serviceable there too. Lecture over. At ease. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
 

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I am just back home from visiting the Indian/Victory dealer in Taipei. It was a really great experience. The whole team there were welcoming, knowledgable, gave me their time as much as I needed, and honestly speaking the whole experience could not have been better. I also visited the HD dealer and what a contrast - but this is not the place for that discussion. The Indian/Victory dealer was perfect. Even my wife was impressed!

Regarding the Highball - i loved it! I know you guys won't be surprised about that! I have never ridden a bike with ape-hangars and I wasn't sure how that would feel but it seemed to fit me perfectly (I am a fraction over 6' tall). I didn't take it for a test run but felt very comfortable on it. It is so different from anything I have ever ridden before that I am sure it would take a little bit of time to get confident on it, but I felt more comfortable than I thought I would.

I know anything else will now feel a bit disappointing after that, but I now need the owner to offer it to me at a price at which I feel it is worth taking the risk about future re-sale values here in Taiwan in a few years time. If he offers a great price, I won't be able to resist! Understandably I was asked to make an offer, but I just find that so hard to do here in Taiwan when I know back home I could buy a brand new one cheaper than he is currently asking, and that is before any post-January discounts. And I hate haggling so have asked them to find out the bottom price, then I will simply say Yes or No. Let's see what he says!

I took some photos but think I have to shrink them to post on the forum.
 

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Tell you what!!!! Send me your money and I'll buy you a nice new Vic. Then I'll hold it for you until you get back stateside. Of course I'll start it weekly and take a spin around the block. Just know blocks in Texas are large.

I'm thinking X1.

Lol!!!


Hopefully they give you a good price you can feel good about.
 
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