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Rode to the local dealership twice in the past month or so. The first time I rode there I sat on a few bikes and asked about them. Told them i was looking at Harleys as well and test rode a few, but I wanted to know more about the Victory. Beat up Harley but never offered me a test ride. Now the HD dealership could not throw me keys fast enough to any bike on the used lot I wanted to take out. Very different vibe. Apparently Polaris does not control their dealerships. this particular one has taken to selling beater used cars and changed their name to and changed their name to AutoMaxx. Not exactly confidence inspiring. I am surprised Polaris would condone this.

http://www.automaxx.com/

Went back today and asked them about the XR and told them I was looking at one and asked about their service dept. Seems they were not really interested unless I wanted to buy one of 6 XCTs they had on the floor. However they did tell me I am better off buying new because I could get a $1500 discount over the used one I said I have not rode one yet.....still no offer for a test ride.

I don't know. Maybe they did not think I was serious or had the money. The HD dealership had no such reservations. I did everything but pull out a check book.

"Ride one and you'll buy one" Seems like the word has not gotten out to this second rate dealership.
 

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Yep! Shoals outdoor sports in Tuscumbia Al. Pretty much offered to let me ride anything on the floor to find what works for me. And I bought one form them even though they are on the opposite end of the state.
 

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None of the Vic dealerships offered me a test ride either, I had to ask for them. A couple of them were not to willing but told them if I don't test ride I don't buy so that changed their minds.
 

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That is screwed up that you are having trouble. Dealers in my area let people test ride all the time. I test rode 3 bikes one afternoon and they new I was not going to buy for atleast 6-8 mounths. I also test rode a highball just to see how it felt with those bars. They new I would never buy it. All I get is sure the keys are in it.
 

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My dealer, that I had already bought two bikes from flat out denied me a test ride, If I had it to do over I would have went somewhere else and they would have lost the sale, never again without a test ride...Thankfully I like the Hammer and I'm happy with it...
 

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My dealer offered a test ride, brought it outside, gave a quick instruction on where things are on the handlebars and said "see ya later". When I got back he said "what do you think?". I said I'll take it!
 

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My dealer offered a test ride, brought it outside, gave a quick instruction on where things are on the handlebars and said "see ya later". When I got back he said "what do you think?". I said I'll take it!
That's the way it should be, but its not in many cases...
 

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PULEEEEEEEEZE go buy a Harley.

Lol lol. :ltr:


Do you have a special character flaw that mandates sniping at posters on this forum? If you don't like a specific post... we would appreciate it if you could restrain yourself and just move on!
I don't see anything wrong with his comment. In fact, it is funny. Lol
Op is a grown man he could've easily walked in and said the salesman that he wanted to test ride one of those puppies and see what they say about it.

Why go in twice and act like a scared kid and walk out? Ask for a test ride, if they say no then come here and make post about it and say Harley dealership couldn't wait to throw the keys at me?
I've been to the many car dealerships that didn't offer a test drive when walked in but they were happy to let me go for a spin when I asked for it. Also never went to a Mercedes forum and made post about how Toyota dealerships were just pure crap. (Which they are by the way)
Like they always say...ask and you shall receive. :D
 

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Lol lol. :ltr:




I don't see anything wrong with his comment. In fact, it is funny. Lol
Op is a grown man he could've easily walked in and said the salesman that he wanted to test ride one of those puppies and see what they say about it.

Why go in twice and act like a scared kid and walk out? Ask for a test ride, if they say no then come here and make post about it and say Harley dealership couldn't wait to throw the keys at me?
I've been to the many car dealerships that didn't offer a test drive when walked in but they were happy to let me go for a spin when I asked for it. Also never went to a Mercedes forum and made post about how Toyota dealerships were just pure crap. (Which they are by the way)
Like they always say...ask and you shall receive. :D
There are no car dealerships that would not offer a test ride. In fact they practically pick a car out and force you into them.
They understand more than most the test ride is the most IMPORTANT part of the sale. When you get behind the wheel the car becomes yours. No car dealer would need to be asked. They are the ones begging people to take test rides. So now is Victory with their "try one, you'll buy it" campaign.....

I understand some of you are uber defensive about your bikes and will side with the mother ship. but when you have 15 foot slogan hung over your building "Try one. you'll buy one" I would expect that would be the FIRST thing a salesperson would do Especially to who has been there twice on a $5000 paid for bike and indicated he does not know if he would even like the Victory because he has never (to this day) rode one. Well I don't feel they really want to sell a bike.
Maybe its because I had a Yamaha and the difference would not be all that much. I don't know. but telling them I have been test riding Harley as well should ring some bells. Instead they start harley bashing.

I have never had to ask for a test ride on any vehicle I have ever purchased no matter how many wheels. Every HD dealership around here asks if you want to take a bike you have expressed interest in out. I told them I have not rode a Heritage Soft Tail. they said "take it and compare it with the Road King. Try a Dyna" I rode many because they have different rides and classes over the past couple months. Been back to the same dealership to ride more. Never had to ask or whip out a checkbook.

Just struck me as strange considering their ad campaign.

Must be comforting to think you are riding a "Mercedes" though.thumb up
 

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Do you have a special character flaw that mandates sniping at posters on this forum? If you don't like a specific post... we would appreciate it if you could restrain yourself and just move on!
That's ok. I have red his posts/snipes before. He is knee deep in the Kool-Aid. Not credible as a source of information for someone who has never owned a Victory as far as I am concerned. Harley is full of them too to an even greater extent. Every forum has their "protectors and defenders" have to wade through them and find the regular people who drink water.

My focus is on those who are more balanced and reasonable and far less defensive on both bikes.
 

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There are no car dealerships that would not offer a test ride. In fact they practically pick a car out and force you into them.
Most adults wondering around a car dealership have a license and are looking to buy. Bike shops are hangouts. Plenty of folks around just gawking at gear or looking to BS with other like minded people. Plenty of curious newbies too.

Some shops have signs on there bikes prohibiting even the sitting on their wares without a staff assistance. If you ever watched people kick the **** out of bike luggage or scratch up tanks with belt buckles etc, you could probably understand why.

Ducatis used to have self retracting stands. It was a racing holdover from back when races were commenced when people ran to their bikes then hopped on and took off. Anyway, I watched a clueless person get on one at a shop one day not realizing the stand popped up, went to set it back on the stand when finished. That dealer's shiny $18k race bike promptly fell right on its expensive plastic fairing.

At the last demo ride I was on, the chick behind me ran her demo Sportster into a guardrail and broke her leg.

I think there are a variety of reasons you may want to cut them a break for not throwing keys at you when you walked in the door. Hell, if people aren't serious about buying, they could just go for joy rides every weekend courtesy of the dealer.
 

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Most adults wondering around a car dealership have a license and are looking to buy. Bike shops are hangouts. Plenty of folks around just gawking at gear or looking to BS with other like minded people. Plenty of curious newbies too.

Some shops have signs on there bikes prohibiting even the sitting on their wares without a staff assistance. If you ever watched people kick the **** out of bike luggage or scratch up tanks with belt buckles etc, you could probably understand why.

Ducatis used to have self retracting stands. It was a racing holdover from back when races were commenced when people ran to their bikes then hopped on and took off. Anyway, I watched a clueless person get on one at a shop one day not realizing the stand popped up, went to set it back on the stand when finished. That dealer's shiny $18k race bike promptly fell right on its expensive plastic fairing.

At the last demo ride I was on, the chick behind me ran her demo Sportster into a guardrail and broke her leg.

I think there are a variety of reasons you may want to cut them a break for not throwing keys at you when you walked in the door. Hell, if people aren't serious about buying, they could just go for joy rides every weekend courtesy of the dealer.
Your post makes a ton of sense. However in this dealership, both times, I was the ONLY customer. The other four guys in there sitting around a parts bar were Vic owners hanging out as they apparently do frequently. I understand some dealerships reservations about bike sitting. Especially Harley Dealerships which have become mini Malls and not just for bike shoppers. They have more qualification to do than Victory or the metric Powersports dealer.

I only went on one demo ride where I was escorted. Yamaha trailer during Bike Week. Where I test rode an FJR, Road Star, and the new Bolt.

Beach Harley just threw me the keys and said take it as long as you need to. The Independent did the same. Had their "consignment" bike for a half hour. (Note to sell don't consign bike there). MB Harley gave me the keys. ALL bikes were used though. The only new bike I would expect to ride is one I was buying.

I think sales people are trained to know who are tire kickers and who are real possible buyers. Both HD boutiques I have been at know I am real. They call me with used bikes they get in clsoe to what i indicated I liked in that brand.

When a customer shows up twice inquiring about a bike and states they have never rode one. I would not think it would be a stretch to expect them to invite you for a test ride. In this regard and in my case only, this particular dealer was different from every other dealer in the area. New or used. But then again they are now selling used cars to help make their nut. Can't imagine why.
 

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when i went in to the shop looking at xc's, i really looked more like a tire kicker than a buyer. i had no plans on buying a bike in less than 6 months and i made that clear to the salesperson, i was looking around and weighing options. when i started asking prices and add-ons and what can you do for this and that, they took the time to humor me. They said they'd take $X amount off the bike when i came back in or $X amount off if i came back within a month because of rebates. said they could add a windshield for cheap on the sale. then they said i could come back and order the trunk for this $X less when i felt like it and had some spare change. so i said, how long to get the red i want, he looked it up and said 3 days. so i asked if i could test ride one they had on the floor. They said sure. pushed it out and checked over for me and told me to go try it out as far as i needed. i came back and said i'd be calling the bank, i had my XC within a week.

anyway, point is, i just asked and they let me even though i probly looked like there was no chance of a sale.
secondly- people who come in on multiple occasions usually start getting looked at like they are wasting time. and dealers dont make a killing off of one bike sale, but i agree that you gotta be willing to BS with a potential buyer
 

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I gotta agree, not gettin' my hard earned cash if I can't check it out. One thing to check. Go to the Victory web site and look at their demo ride schedule. There may be one coming to your neck of the woods. Victory hauls trailers full of bikes around the country so folks can demo them. Actually, that is how I test rode mine. Took out the Cross Country, Cross Country Tour and Vision. That was a good thing for me. I thought I wanted the Vision, but ended up with the CCT. So actually, I don't know if my local dealer would allow a test ride or not. Just happened to stop by on the right day.

Harley does do a really good job in the sales dept. Their dealerships are both a sales floor and hangout. That has been their saving grace.
 

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Do you have a special character flaw that mandates sniping at posters on this forum? If you don't like a specific post... we would appreciate it if you could restrain yourself and just move on!
I think half crazy has read most of the OPs post in other threads on this site and has come to the same conclusion I have, KingFrog wants the Harley. I also say, go buy the Harley.
 
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