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Searching on eBay comes up with Wiseco, Dobeck, Bully brands of VFC. These all look the same. Are they? And what's the difference between them and the one Lloydz sells?
 

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From what I have seen (hearsay), Lloyd has spent considerable time with the Dobeck folks to tune the VFC specifically for Victory bikes; the others are much more generic.

Others who have more knowledge on this, please chime in.
 

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From what I have seen (hearsay), Lloyd has spent considerable time with the Dobeck folks to tune the VFC specifically for Victory bikes; the others are much more generic.

Others who have more knowledge on this, please chime in.
Don't know that I have any more knowledge but I'm of the same opinion.. I thought I read somewhere in a few places he customized either the internal "mapping" or parameters or algorithm etc specifically from his own tuning work with the device on the Vic 100/106 drive-train.

I'm running his VFC III (which Lloydz unit is the only "VFC") and love it for simple plug and play running on a mildly modded (stage 1ish performance filter and RPW exhaust) High-Ball. Runs like a freight train. It does have a good bit of decel popping which I would like to alleviate. Your mileage may vary depending on exhaust choice. The RPW slash 2 into 2 pipes are notorious.

In my own personal opinion, there's only two ways to go.. Either the VFC III or the PCV either autotuned or dyno-mapped. If/when I do cams and intake upgrades, I'll go the PCV route.
 

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Searching on eBay comes up with Wiseco, Dobeck, Bully brands of VFC. These all look the same. Are they? And what's the difference between them and the one Lloydz sells?
seeing how Lloydz works morning noon and night developing horse power for the Vic I would think his Turner would work great for you.
If you ever need help you can call him. The other guys who knows what kinda help you'll get.
Ask your dealer about getting one maybe you can save on shipping
 

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They are all made by dobeck, lloyd tweaks them for the vics though.

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seeing how Lloydz works morning noon and night developing horse power for the Vic I would think his Turner would work great for you.
If you ever need help you can call him. The other guys who knows what kinda help you'll get.
Ask your dealer about getting one maybe you can save on shipping
They are all made by dobeck, lloyd tweaks them for the vics though.
That is what was sorta confusing me ... the pics on eBay all looked the same ... couldn't see a brand name (although I didn't look that hard).

So, if Dobeck makes them and Lloydz tweaks them, are the one's that Lloydz sell branded with his logo?

vj ... I agree
 

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This is my old one that i sold. I believe he has one with a blue label also, i think they are the same just different color label.

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This is my old one that i sold. I believe he has one with a blue label also, i think they are the same just different color label.

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ahhhhhhhh... I went back onto eBay and got the BIGGER pic LOL! Then I could see the branding.

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Add the Ness Big Shot and you pretty much have all of them listed. They are all made by Dobeck and most if not all are exactly the same with the exception of the label.
If you are active or retired military (and possibly police or fire dept) Dobeck offers a really good discount. I bought one that way and tuned per KevinX instructions, it does what I needed it to do and as retired military I think I paid around $145.
 

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Has anyone ever tried a generic Dobeck against a VFCIII?

I know the Cobra unit was tested(once) and everyone lambasted that.

Has anyone ever ran these two back to back to see if everyone's assumptions are accurate?
 

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I didnt like the vfc so since thats been tweaked for vics i would probably really not like the others.

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I'd imagine the generic's would get the job done and you'd save some bucks. An apples to apples comparison would be an interesting read though.

But my vote from experience with my VFC and support if you need it goes to ordering a VFC from Lloydz. I've read that even if you tell them your setup (other mods, exhaust, etc), they can dial it in for you so it's already setup.

Real question on my mind is how much Lloyd will get into Indian performance.

In fairness though, consider a PCV also if you're going to do any performance mods and you can get to a tuner professional. I'm hoping someday to make it to one of these "cam parties". As much as my bike is night/day from stock now, I bet with cams, timing wheel, torque tubes, pcv and being tuned by one of the greats in the business would make the bike just stump-pulling silly strong. As if I need it any stronger.
 

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I've read that even if you tell them your setup (other mods, exhaust, etc), they can dial it in for you so it's already setup.
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the setup from lloydz it terrible rich, if your going to run one call rylan and ask him a setup. I called lloydz and talked to danny, he had to look in the book and give me what he thought was a good setup, i told him that was where i started and it was way rich and he had nothing more to say( no other book to look in) i called rylan and off the top of his head he shot me some numbers and ideas.



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Yep I had Royce at Cherokee Trikes in Greer check mine out and in minutes had me dialed in pretty damn solid. This bike screams. Can't believe I'd consider swapping for a cross bike. I gotta ride tomorrow. I've been too long out of the saddle. ?


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I made a Daytona Twin Tuner work on my Vision.

All they do is extend the pulse width to the injector based on certain parameters. Doebeck looks at rate of change in pulse width (no other inputs to the controller so how else would it work?) and the Daytona gets a throttle position input and a tach input. That's why I like the Daytona more.
 
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