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Hey ya'll. I have a 2013 HB that I plan on trying to drag race for kicks. I was wondering if anyone that has done it has any suggestions for me. Tire type, length of burnout, how they launch, shift points and anything else I'm not thinking of. Its only an 1/8 mile track here so all I need is a helmet and a leather jacket!

My neighbor races a 69 Camero. I went with him the other weekend and there were a bunch of bikes running. I thought I can do that! Planning on givin it a whirl over the 4th!

Gunna have a hell of a time beating that dude that had a zx-14 running in the 5 seconds off a .003 light...

If this is fun and I can do alright I may have to consider and air shifter and some nitrous.... cheers
 

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Hey ya'll. I have a 2013 HB that I plan on trying to drag race for kicks. I was wondering if anyone that has done it has any suggestions for me. Tire type, length of burnout, how they launch, shift points and anything else I'm not thinking of. Its only an 1/8 mile track here so all I need is a helmet and a leather jacket!

My neighbor races a 69 Camero. I went with him the other weekend and there were a bunch of bikes running. I thought I can do that! Planning on givin it a whirl over the 4th!

Gunna have a hell of a time beating that dude that had a zx-14 running in the 5 seconds off a .003 light...

If this is fun and I can do alright I may have to consider and air shifter and some nitrous.... cheers


I was told to shift no higher than 4800 on my CC.

That is where the rev limiter first begins to soften the acceleration.
VIC doesn't use a hard limiter like some manufacturers that you can run up and bounce off of. Theirs comes in progressively.
By redline the motor has no torque.
Shifting at 4800 should give you what you want.

That's the limit of what I can tell you other than have fun.
Also some tracks and events will require a Snell approved helmet and often a certain year of approval. Others are more lax. Depends on their insurance company. Best call ahead rather than be disappointed.
If you do nitrous keep the plumbing as short as possible between the nozzle and the valve. Your motor will thank you for it.

Good luck to you and have fun.
 

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The stock tire should be sufficient. Maybe drop a few PSI from standard to start. As for the burnout, just until you begin to see smoke. No reason for a smoke show with a stock tire. It will only make it greasy.

Good luck. Any like Joe said, check on the Snell requirements. Any track that is NHRA sanctioned will require a Snell M2005 at least I believe, may even be M2010 now.
 

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My advice is to go into it with the intention of having fun and don't worry about your times. I'm not saying a victory can't get up and go but honestly, my girlfriend's ninja 650 is faster off the line than my cross country. Yes it has lots of torque but the vic is a heavy bike, plain and simple.

As for the launch itself. I drag race a minimum of 5 times every race weekend (from the start line into t1) and so far my starts have been pretty damn good. First thing you need to know is exactly where and how long your power band is, this is critical to a good launch. A dyno chart is the only real way to get this but in a pinch there are apps for you phone that will give you a reasonable estimate to get you started. At the line either keep both feet on the ground (my preference) or right foot down, left foot ready for the upshift. In gear, rev the motor to the midpoint of your power band and hold it there. Let the clutch out so the bike is trying to pull forward but use your feet (foot) to keep it in place so you don't get a false start. When the light goes green feather the clutch out while feeding more and more throttle. The idea is to keep the motor speed constant while the clutch is being released. By the time the clutch is all the way out it will be time to shift so as soon as you start moving get your left foot under the lever and preload it. Hold the throttle WFO while you snap the clutch in and dump it back out, the preload on your shift lever should get you into second. Repeat as needed until you cross the line. Remember, the BEST launch is the one that keeps the front tire about 1-2" off the ground. Less than that and you're not on it as hard as you could be (or you don't have enough power to lift it). More than that and you're wasting power lifting the tire instead of moving forward.
 

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What kind of times and speeds are you guys running? Also, if the motor gets hot, will a light come on to let me know?


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For one you better get rid of those ape hangers and get some clips ons that will give you some control over the front end.... past the traps!!! thumb up

Secondly (for fun) yes just try less air psi in the rear tire for better grip. maybe about 20-25 psi, start high and drop a lb each time to see how it feels. The burn out - just get it spinning and let it take you from there till you feel it grab. dont let it just sit there and burn rubber up..... obviously the shorter the grab distance is what you want and that will be your best tire psi.

if your gonna do this regularly, get another wheel and drag slick or just an old tire and have it shaved.... works good and alot less cost!

Safety gear - full leather jacket, pants, gloves is usually min requirement and snell fullface 2005/2010 helmet

I ran a Kaway KZ900 for a couple years way back when.... at Fremont Raceway (if that tells you how long ago) and had an absolute blast with it. Got into the 9's, fastest ever ran was a 9.27 at 147mph ---- that was fast enough for me!
 

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I'm getting keen to throw the big girl down the track to, we've got an excellent 1/4 mile strip here in QLD.
I know she's big & heavy but i'm keen to see what kind of times she gets.
I am curious to find people's impressions of the super sticky tracks - our local strip has some coating and i've been told everyone tippy toes up to the start line. Makes me very nervous on how much to give it until you've already been down a few times!

I'll throw up my impressions once i've had a couple of trips down the fast lane..
 

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I would try to get hold of Half-Crazy, he races his bike quite often. If my heavy ass XR had some engine work, fuel controller, etc. I would probably run it a few times. I live just a few miles from Thundervalley and usually go out and watch the crotchrockets and street glides run when I get a chance.
 

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You done need that stuff if its bracket racing. You could race a 50cc scooter if ya want!

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What do you guys think of shifting without the clutch?


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On every bike I've owned prior to the vic, I've upshifted without the clutch on a regular basis. The exception to that is low speed around town stuff since that's a bit harder to do smoothly.

I've tried it a couple times on the xr and it will do it but it doesn't like it much. Higher gears seem to work better (4-5, 5-6) but otherwise I've gotten a lot of false neutrals and the general clunkyness of the tranny makes it a somewhat unpleasant experience in any gear. For racing purposes it's an absolute necessity, you will NOT get a fast time if you're pulling in the clutch for each gear. On the road though, leave the clutchless shifting to the sportier bikes.
 

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What do you guys think of shifting without the clutch?


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Honestly I think there is a good chance that sooner than later you will bend a shifter fork.

With high torque motors and dog type transmissions it generally is better to find a way to kill the spark just while the transmission is changing gears.
With older ignition systems a micro switch running on a cam on some part of the shift linkage that just blips the ignition was all you needed. However with a bike which runs everything through the ecm like a vic. It's not going to be that easy I don't think.

Call Lloyd's and see if he can get one of the guys he has built race bikes for who are actually racing to give you a call and tell you what works . Perhaps Lloyds will have an answer.

I have never met anyone racing who was not generous with hints for someone starting out.
Till you know I'd use the clutch.
 

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Its the same concept right? Just use your foot instead of a button?

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Yes and no. . .

Pingle shifter has a "kill" switch, that you set to interrupt the ignition a split second, so that the electric ram will change the gear smoothly.

Hold it wide open and push the button. . . smooth quick shift with no drama. Pingle even has an add on modular that will activate the shifter at a predetermined RPM. . .almost like an automatic transmission.

If you want to be concistant and want to go fast on the drag strip the Pingle shifter is one way of helping you accomplish your goals.

So now you tell me if it is the same "concept"?:crzy:
 

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At first, concentrate on your launch and shift points... don't worry about cutting a great light. Reaction time doesn't affect ET, so that's only important if you are racing against someone else, and that will come later.

Like the man said... relax and have fun.

What kind of times and speeds are you guys running? Also, if the motor gets hot, will a light come on to let me know?
There is no 'hot engine' light.

I run like 11.50 @ 117 mph (1/4 mile). If your bike is stock you can expect very low 13s or very high 12s.

I don't do a burnout at all since I get 100% traction without one.
 

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I agree with half crazy. Go have fun and practice on launch and shift rpm. The better you get at the launch and shifts the lower your et will get. As far as shifting with no clutch I have made hundreds of runs on mine not using the clutch and it runs 11.50s and have not had any problems. I did make a shifter for my bike so u can stomp down and shift because it's faster shifting that way. The biggest thing is have fun.
 

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Its bracket racing on an 1/8th mile track so speed isn't the top priority, consistency is. I'm just gunna go out and have fun. I don't plan on spending a ton of money to go fast. Yet... Lloydz nitrous kit could be fun...
 

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Its bracket racing on an 1/8th mile track so speed isn't the top priority, consistency is. I'm just gunna go out and have fun. I don't plan on spending a ton of money to go fast. Yet... Lloydz nitrous kit could be fun...
I just went to the track for the first time ever on a bike-I sucked-lol!!!!

My first pass was a [email protected] mph-60ft was a 2.77, then I got it down to a [email protected] mph with a 2.153 60 ft.

My bike dyno'd 95 rwhp so I gotta keep practicing driving and working on my 60fts!

When I do the math I should be running 11.8'[email protected] need the driver mod!!!!
 
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