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So I've been looking at exhaust lately because I can't stand the stock exhaust. I can be pretty picky when it comes to pipes and I've got my eye on doing a true dual exhaust for my 2013 boardwalk. I'm only aware of two companies that make dual exhaust and they are Hacker and RPW. I'm not sure if the RPW pipes would work with the BW but I don't see why they wouldn't, and I already know the Hacker ones fit. My problem is which one to go with? Price difference really isn't a big deal. I'm more concerned with the difference in performance, sound, quality, installation issues, and customer service between the two companies. Can anyone help me out on this?
 

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Hi mate, I'm in exactly the same boat as you.
I'm in QLD Aus, RPW have a dealer in melbourne i've been talking to, got a price & confirmation from RPW USA that the True Duals definately fit our 2013 Boardwalks. I'm currently waiting to hear if there is a quiet baffle option. Given the quality (generally rubbish) of the sound samples on youtube it's a bit of a risk, some seem ridiculously loud & others have a nice deep but not obnoxious tone (what i'm after, needs to be touring friendly)
It's north noting RPW installation instructions mentions cutting the chassis slightly.

Haven't had too much to do with the hacker as seems a little harder to get down here...
Once i hear about the baffles i'll probably pull the trigger, got a local dealer teamed up to do pipes & PC5 at the same time. I'm interested to hear what your thoughts are to?
 

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yup

go hacker and throw on the fishtail tips, as classic as it gets. my two cents anyhow, the rpw just doesnt look quite right to me.
 

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I did ask about the fishtails but RPW strongly recommended against it, something about the gases not flowing freely & possible performance loss.
Unfortunately i've had to waylay my plans to upgrade for the time being.
 

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I like the look of fishtails on certain bikes. But I'm not quite sure how well it would go with the boardwalk. I was either thinking of slash cut with the longer end at the top or a down turn exhaust. The nice part is I can always change out the ends.

Still haven't decided yet on which exhaust. Been taking it easy with finding mods for the bike this winter because it will just make me wanna ride that much more.

I wish there were just more pictures out of the two exhaust but it's almost impossible to find pictures even with my google-fu. I think so far the most concern I have is which exhaust is closer to the fender. Whichever one, RPW or Hacker, sticks out on the sides less is probably the one I'll go with. When there is just too much space between the fender and the exhaust it just doesn't look right to me. I like em close in. But that's just my preference.
 

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Well I ordered the RPW true duals. Chrome straight muffler with slash cut tips. Also ordered PCV and Lloyd's air box (the torque tubes were backordered and I'm impatient). Should be here soon and I'll post pictures of the final assembly. Man I'm looking forward to this...
 

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Hi mate, glad to hear you pulled the trigger!
I'm very eager to hear what you have to say about the whole thing, this might very well set the precedent for any other Boardwalk owners out there who haven't spoken up.

I've been looking and looking over the months aswell and haven't found anything else remotely close that i like. the D&D Slip ons come close but they emailed back today and said they won't fit a boardwalk.

Looking forward to your results, if you have the chance for a video it would go a long way!
 

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Hi mate, glad to hear you pulled the trigger!
I'm very eager to hear what you have to say about the whole thing, this might very well set the precedent for any other Boardwalk owners out there who haven't spoken up.

I've been looking and looking over the months aswell and haven't found anything else remotely close that i like. the D&D Slip ons come close but they emailed back today and said they won't fit a boardwalk.

Looking forward to your results, if you have the chance for a video it would go a long way!
I think this may set precedent. To me, the boardwalk is the perfect body style for dual pipes. Just like the kingpin was before it. I can tell you one thing, mine will be the first boardwalk with dual exhaust on YouTube. And I can't tell you how much I searched, but I have never seen a boardwalk with these exhaust.

Maybe one of the reasons nobody else pulled the trigger is because there were no pictures to show them the end product. I know that was one of my concerns too. Almost made me go a different route.
 

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My boardwalk came factory with dual exhaust, just wish I did not have to change the air flow and fuel control just to add louder pipes.
Or you referring to a pipe on each side of the bike? as I have yet to see that on a boardwalk or king pin, don't mean it aint out there, I just haven't seen it yet.
 

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I have been searching for the right sound for my TC. The previous owner cut out the baffles & is truly obnoxious! I finally got turned on to Big City Thunder exhaust. I order mine tomorrow. Anybody here have experience with them?


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My boardwalk came factory with dual exhaust, just wish I did not have to change the air flow and fuel control just to add louder pipes.
Or you referring to a pipe on each side of the bike? as I have yet to see that on a boardwalk or king pin, don't mean it aint out there, I just haven't seen it yet.
Yes I'm referring to exhaust on each side. I'll post pictures when I finally have everything on.

How do you like your fairing?
 

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Yes I'm referring to exhaust on each side. I'll post pictures when I finally have everything on.

How do you like your fairing?
I love it, cept I need to cut the windshield down so I can see over it as I don't like looking through it, when it fogs over its a bit hard to see the road, and that aint very good when I am headed home at midnight from a 17 hour shift.
 

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I love it, cept I need to cut the windshield down so I can see over it as I don't like looking through it, when it fogs over its a bit hard to see the road, and that aint very good when I am headed home at midnight from a 17 hour shift.
I've thought about going with a fairing, but I've never rode a bike with one so I'm not sure yet. In May, I'm taking a trip out west and renting a street glide for the week to ride around on. That will be my little experiment on whether or not I like em.
 

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Well my bike has been in the shop for two weeks. And we've run into some problems with the heat shield on the right side exhaust. The heat shield for whatever reason is about an inch and a half too short from the factory and doesn't come out far enough to meet the muffler. Obviously it's an eye sore how it is. Thankfully, RPW is standing behind their product and shipping me a new heat shield free of charge. Once that is on, I'll post my follow up and my impressions of the exhaust. I plan to do a ton of pictures and even a walk around on YouTube with sound sample. But while we're waiting, here's a sneak peak.

 

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Such a wonderful idea and I am floored by how well that looks on the bike. Can't wait for the walk-around.
 

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Well I have a bit of an update for everyone. I still don't have my bike but the exhaust, Intake, and PCV are all installed and the bike is back together. I'm just waiting on the shop to dyno it and I can pick it up.

But I am not at all pleased with the RPW pipes. I will start from the beginning. All this info is coming from the shop owner. He does great work and turns out top quality custom bikes and parts. He knows what he's doing and an exhaust install should be a piece of cake for him.

First, the exhaust did not want to go together. Apparently whoever designed these things doesn't really know what they are doing. It is impossible to put the heat shield on or off without completely removing the entire exhaust pipe first.

Second, the right heat shield they initially sent me was short about an inch and a half and did not come all the way out to meet the muffler.

This is the left side exhaust. Note the heat shield comes all the way to the muffler...


This is the right side...


Seriously how do you miss that when you're sending it out?

Well this just wouldn't do. So I called RPW to see if we can resolve this issue. I talked to a woman named Cindy. Told her about the trouble we were having and emailed her these exact pictures. Plus a few others. They then called up my mechanic to talk to him. He was on the phone with them for about an hour trying to tell them that he followed the instructions correctly, and exactly how short the heat shield is from the muffler. Anyways they eventually decide to send a new heatshield. But they opt for 5 day ground shipping so that's a whole week my bike is on his lift not being able to be worked on and just taking up space.

Well last Saturday the new heat shield finally came in. AND IT'S STILL SHORT!


Now granted it's not as short as before, but it is still short nonetheless. And it is still an ugly eyesore. I have to really question RPWs quality control if they let TWO heat shields go out to the same customer and both aren't the right size. My mechanic gave them specific measurements. And it is unacceptable that the second time around they couldn't get it right. I'm willing to forgive the first time, because no company is perfect. But they should have been paying extra close attention to what they were doing when they sent out a part to fix their mistake.

Third issue. The left and right exhaust are different lengths away from the fender.


Seriously RPW, what the hell? How hard is it to get the pipes the same distance from the fender so everything is symmetrical?!? I understand the belt drive makes the right one come out a bit farther. But how about compensating for that by having the left pipe come out farther?!? Every time I see this bike, I will see that difference in space. Again, this is just bad design and I'm half tempted to throw these in the trash because of this issue alone.

Fourth issue... The chrome is sub par. This wouldn't be such a terrible problem, as I could always rechrome it when the time comes. And I would be willing to do that, if the pipes were worth the effort in the first place. Not to mention that to even get the heat shield and muffler rechromed would involve me taking the ENTIRE exhaust system off since you can't take them off without removing the entire system. Stupid design...

Fifth issue. This is minor, but it adds insult to injury. The kickstand will not go all the way up. The rubber piece contacts the left exhaust mount. I need to either remove the entire rubber piece or cut an area off it so it slides past. Stupid design.

I am not happy with this outcome. Hell I'm not even neutral about it. I have half a mind to throw these away and put the stock exhaust back on even though I can't stand those either. I wish I could say screw it and go and buy the hacker tru duals, but the RPW pipes have taken up any available funds. I've spent as much on the pipes as I have on the installation of these pipes because they were so problematic.

I didn't buy these pipes for their performance, as I was happy with the stock performance. Any power gains I would get would be an added benefit. And I didn't buy them for the sound. Anything other than those stock pipes would be an improvement. Hell a lawnmower sounds better. I bought these pipes for how they would look. I wanted something that would complement the design of the boardwalk and be something I could show off. These pipes, and RPW, failed to deliver. And now I'm stuck with these things for the foreseeable future.

For the record, I still think the true dual design looks great on the BW, I would just steer very clear of RPW and their true duals. Go with Hacker. It would be pretty hard for them to be worse. The pipes I got certainly aren't worth the $900 I paid.

I'll still post more pictures and video when I get the bike from the shop. From far away, the bike will look good. But when people come to check it out, these problems will be starring them in their face.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post this information, real shame & hopefully this will help any other Boardwalk owners avoid similar difficulties in the future.

Knowing the pipes weren't symmetrical alone would have been a deal breaker for me. No photos or instructions indicated that from what i've seen. Not allowing the kickstand to retract fully is a safety issue & below average chrome on a set of $900 pipes is a bit disappointing, manufacturing defects aside.

Did you end up having to cut the frame? Will that piece show up if you change the pipes back to stock or make any other modifications?

Has RPW made any more comments yet?
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post this information, real shame & hopefully this will help any other Boardwalk owners avoid similar difficulties in the future.

Knowing the pipes weren't symmetrical alone would have been a deal breaker for me. No photos or instructions indicated that from what i've seen. Not allowing the kickstand to retract fully is a safety issue & below average chrome on a set of $900 pipes is a bit disappointing, manufacturing defects aside.

Did you end up having to cut the frame? Will that piece show up if you change the pipes back to stock or make any other modifications?

Has RPW made any more comments yet?
Yes the frame had to be cut. I know it's possible to get another piece so that I could reattach the stock exhaust if I was so inclined, but I'm not. My displeasure in these pipes is only bested by my displeasure in the stock exhaust. But at least there was nothing actually wrong with them. I just couldn't stand the way they looked and sounded.

I haven't contacted RPW again. To be honest the reason is threefold. One I'm still trying to calm down. It doesn't do me any good to go yelling and cussing at them in an email or phone call. Need to keep my head about me when I try and get what I want. And two, I still haven't seen the bike in person. My dad took the pictures when he went by the shop. I'm over an hour away and can't just pop in like he can. When I can see them myself, I'll know even better how I want to word things. And lastly, I don't even trust RPW to be able to fix the problem as they failed to fix such a simple problem as lengthening the heat shield.

It's possible to fix the symmetry issue. Might be able to put some shims or something in the mounting for the left pipe and get it closer (well, farther actually). Close enough to at least not be so glaring. But it is completely unreasonable that I would have to do that in the first place for $900 pipes. If I would have known it wouldn't be symmetrical, I wouldn't have bought the pipes.

It's also possible to fix the heat shield length issue on our own too. We would need to shorten the left pipe heat shield to the same length as the right, them cut the exhaust on both sides to allow the muffler to slide back on both to the point they reach the heat shields. I would only lose a fraction of an inch in length and nobody would be the wiser. I'm still considering having this done.

If I fix the symmetry and heat shield issue, the only two problems left would be the kick stand, and the chrome. Two problems I can live with. Take the rubber piece off the kickstand solves the first problem, and getting the chrome redone at a later date would solve the second.

I'm just so disgusted by this whole thing. I'm even more disgusted that after all the money that's been spent, I'm practically stuck with these pipes. I make 30k a year, so it will be a good long time before I can even think about replacing them.

If there are any BW owners that like the idea of dual pipes, go with hacker. It can't be any worse. Truly, the dual pipes look really complements the design of the BW. but the RPW pipes fall very short of reaching what I wanted the bike to be.
 
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