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Ive thought about it on my Vegas which is same as a Judge really except for wheel size.
I bought an XC billet 18" front wheel as it has bolt holes for two disc rotors and it fits my conventional forks using all the same spacers and axle off my 21" wheel.
The problem lies then in where to bolt the second caliper töo as theres no lugs on the other lower fork leg so youve gotta weld some on in the right place and strip the forks right down after marking where youre gonna weld or the heat generated will probably mess up your fork internals.
The other way to go is bolt an entire Hammer S fork assembly including triple trees to your judge.
With the price of Vic parts you may be better off moneywise to graft on an entire Jap superbike front end off a GSXR1000 or similar...I've seen similar setups on hotrodded Harleys before.
Any other ideas I'd love to hear as really our single disc fronts are barely adequate at speed.
Upgrade to Lyndals performance pads is the cheapest way to get better front braking.
 
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why not
you would need different master cylinder
brake lines
wheel
rotor
fork
am sure you can find all the parts used, Look on ebay or pinwall cycle
 

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Quick and easy..notice I'm not saying cheap...triple trees, forks, front master cylinder, brake lines, front wheel off a Hammer S or a Cross Country/Cross Roads.
 

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My guess would be the Hammer S setup would be a straight bolt up.
Until I ran a tape over a XC/XR headstem and bearings I wouldnt know, measure up the next one you see.
Personally Id be on the lookout at insurance auctions for a Hammer S thats been hit up the arse,
Id get the whole complete front end as well as the 106 motor for mine and part out the rest of it.
 

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My guess would be the Hammer S setup would be a straight bolt up.
Until I ran a tape over a XC/XR headstem and bearings I wouldnt know, measure up the next one you see.
Personally Id be on the lookout at insurance auctions for a Hammer S thats been hit up the arse,
Id get the whole complete front end as well as the 106 motor for mine and part out the rest of it.
I thought that as well MB. Next time I'm at the Victory dealer I'll scope out the Hammer's headstem size.
 

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the triple trees are 50mm and the fit is


Year Product Model Assembly
2016 VIC HAMMER 8 BALL INTL/HAMMER S ALL OPTIONS (R01) SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V16HA36/HS36 ALL OPTIONS (49VICFORKS11KP)
2015 VIC HAMMER 8 BALL/SPORT INTL SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V15HA36/HR/HS36 (49VICFORKS11KP)
2014 VIC HAMMER 8 BALL/S INTL/S LE INTL SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V14HA36/HS36 (49VICFORKS11KP)
2013 VIC HAMMER 8 BALL/S INTL SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V13HA36/HS36 (49VICFORKS11KP)
2012 VIC KINGPIN SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V12CB36NP/NPC/NPA (49VICFORKS11KP)
2012 VIC HAMMER S/8 BALL ALL OPTIONS SUSPENSION, FRONT FORKS - V12HS36/HA36 ALL OPTIONS (49VICFORKS11KP)
 

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I think I priced out a new stuff for another gent that was doing kinda the same thing, we stopped at $3400 and that was just left and right complete forks, front wheel, two rotors and some screws.

I myself looked into doing a wheel swap on a highball, gave up on that too.
 

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Yeah its gotta be a wreck or a jappa front to be viable, where I come from.
Either that or TIGweld some lugs to our conventional forks and the rest is easy peasy.
 

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Thanks guys. It's do-able but expensive.
I am hoping to get a wreck, do it that way.. Otherwise a trade looms as that single disc up from just sometimes is not enough at speed. Had another "moment" today...
 

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Thanks guys. It's do-able but expensive.
I am hoping to get a wreck, do it that way.. Otherwise a trade looms as that single disc up from just sometimes is not enough at speed. Had another "moment" today...
Oeps .... What brake pads are you using now ???
 

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@AfterDarker ...yeah mate what pads have you got as stock pads are not real flash under duress:eek
I went to Lyndals Z-plus front and rear for more 'bite'
Wouldve gone to Lyndals Gold on the front but then I was running the skinny 90 90 21" front...whereas now Im running the fat 130 70 18 front Id have the traction to go to pads with even more bite.
Now my rear brake can be relied upon she pulls up fairly well using both brakes.
I'd still like to go twin disc though....oh make sure we are not bidding against each other when one comes up
 

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Was thinking if its feasilble to use a lh lower fork leg on the right side reversed.
Logistically the axle location would need to be same from either side.
Next time I got the front axle out Ill see if it can go in from the other side and be secure.
If it will then theres just the aesthetics of having one caliper behind the fork leg and the other in front! .. Could you live with that for better braking performance?
 

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Different lowers?

Different lower legs as far as how the axle is held in place? The X bikes have to different lower legs one leg the axle screws into and the other leg holds the axles by pinch bolts.
 

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Different lower legs as far as how the axle is held in place? The X bikes have to different lower legs one leg the axle screws into and the other leg holds the axles by pinch bolts.
Vegas/Judge/Highball/Gunner/Jackpot all have axle pinchbolts on both sides.
As far as the X bikes come into the discussion well they don't really as they already have twin discs on USD forks.
We are tryna suss out ways of going twin disc cheaper than grafting on an entire Hammer S or XC front end.
On our bikes the axle doesn't actually screw into the lower leg in just slides in and the axle fastener screws into the axle from the opposite side. the pinch bolts on both sides secure the axle.
That's the best way I can describe it.
Thanks for your input Speedblue and others.
Keep them ideas coming as there's more that one way to skin a cat
 

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better heat dissipation through two rotors, one would think, as well as a greater surface area of pad on rotor.
May or may not result in needing less pressure on the lever to stop.
My GPZ900R had twin front discs and it pulled up a helluva lot better than my Vic and from much higher speeds.
Have I missed anything?
well there's the visual aspect too but that's not of primary concern.
 

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What makes you think you want dual discs? What do you think you will gain?

Half crazy maybe you are fully crazy! I have a stage one on my Judge - an ECU chip from Lloydz, K&N air filter, 2 into 1 RPW Thor exhaust with minimal baffles, the thing goes quick, yet only one front disc, I tell you it doesn't stop too quick! I have a steel braided brake line and certainly new after market brake pads, I actually forget the brand EBC I think but was a specialist after market brand, best I could get according to wheel specialist that fitted it.

Put it this way I go riding with a bunch of guys on sport bikes, Ducatis, BMWs mainly and one guy on a HD Road King, they all have dual front discs except me and apart from the HD my bike is probably the f'ing heaviest, ie most mass and needs most stopping power. I mean a Ducati is 100 kg lighter than our Victories it will stop so much quicker than our tractors. I love the Victory torque love the motor, love the ride, but hate the f'ing brakes! So easy to lock up the back wheel, I have done that quite a few times. Of course 70% of braking is from the front.

Appreciate all the info being put on here, thanks guys, especially MBX cheers mate, useful stuff to know.

But still, no one has seemed to have actually carried out a successful single to dual front brake conversion on any Victory single front disc model ... as far as I can see. Have I missed something? There are various suggestions, but no one seems to have actually done it.
 

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Guess you did not follow post #11 there is a link to a website

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/victory-vegas-8ball-project-evil-8-part-2-90808.html

And there they've done it .... And a turbo charged member on this site did it too ....

The coolest way would be the 40° link
http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=83
i send you before instead of the Jackpot to install the Hammer one ... Same price .... Only the hoses and calipers need extra ..... All in the link above mate ...

Yes agree with your post ... Compare to other victory or HD or other V-twin our single disks actually breaks shorter ...

But not compare to racers .... I'll look up a link that i posted before in brake distance in meters

EDIT, i could not find it but this info will do .... Victory is in the list
Brake distance in ft

http://www.svrider.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-307050.html

Superbikes:
•2011 BMW S1000RR: 129 ft
•2011 Ducati 1198: 141 ft
•2011 Honda CBR1000RR: 134 ft
•2011 Suzuki GSXR-1000: 140 ft
•2011 KTM RC8R: 135 ft
•2011 Kawasaki ZX10R: 129 ft
•2011 Yamaha R1: 137 ft

Supersports:
•2011 Yamaha R6: 124 ft
•2011 Honda CBR600RR: 126 ft
•2011 Ducati 848 EVO: 127 ft
•2011 Triumph 675R: 126 ft
•2011 Suzuki GSXR-600: 122 ft

Other bikes:
•2015 Harley Street 750: 152 ft
•2011 Harley StreetGlide: 129 ft
•2011 Star Stratoliner: 142 ft
•2011 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero: 144 ft
•2013 BMW R1200-RTP: 144 ft
•2013 Harley Electra Glide: 144 ft
•2010 Star Raider S: 124 ft
•2010 Harley Softail Rocker C: 125 ft
•2010 Victory Vegas Jackpot: 129 ft

OR

http://www.motorcycle-vermont.com/the-effect-of-motorcycle-type-on-braking-distance/

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GOOGLE is your friend ....

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