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Just want to say what a mechanical, ergonomic masterpiece! Did a 200 mile ride today. Scheduled my 500 mile service since I just about made it there already, and the XCT is great. Don't need ear plugs anymore since the fairing does such a good job of blocking wind noise. With all vents closed, radio even sounded good at 75-80 mph. My first mpg check showed 46, although I did not go above 3k rpms for breakin. Sounds great to me. Bike is everything positive that reviewers stated. Only down side for me is coming off of a Mustang seat, little numb butt starting about 90 miles non stop ride, which is still not bad, but other seat I never got sore butt. I still may keep the seat since after 1.5 hrs, I should stop and stretch. Great forum and bike! thanks!

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Just want to say what a mechanical, ergonomic masterpiece! Did a 200 mile ride today. Scheduled my 500 mile service since I just about made it there already, and the XCT is great. Don't need ear plugs anymore since the fairing does such a good job of blocking wind noise. With all vents closed, radio even sounded good at 75-80 mph. My first mpg check showed 46, although I did not go above 3k rpms for breakin. Sounds great to me. Bike is everything positive that reviewers stated. Only down side for me is coming off of a Mustang seat, little numb butt starting about 90 miles non stop ride, which is still not bad, but other seat I never got sore butt. I still may keep the seat since after 1.5 hrs, I should stop and stretch. Great forum and bike! thanks!

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Its a "new" seat. Give it some time to break in before you give up on it. Personally I am amazed at the comfort of the stock seat on my XC. fits my large Arse and even after a 5hr ride, I felt great at the end of the ride. On my VTX a 5 hr ride I would be tired at a minimum and sever butt burn. BTW I had the Ultimate Mid Rider on my VTX
 

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Its a "new" seat. Give it some time to break in before you give up on it. Personally I am amazed at the comfort of the stock seat on my XC. fits my large Arse and even after a 5hr ride, I felt great at the end of the ride. On my VTX a 5 hr ride I would be tired at a minimum and sever butt burn. BTW I had the Ultimate Mid Rider on my VTX
Good to hear! thanks for that. Yeah, after that much money on the bike I was in no hurry for a new seat. Besides, 90 miles is pretty good before butt annoyance.

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The factory seat for most people is very comfortable but you may have to give it up to 1000 miles for break in.

Also, if your 46 mpg is based off filling the tank after riding and dividing the number of miles on you trip meter by the qty of gas you put in that's awesome. If your 46 mpg is based on the readout it isn't quite accurate. I'm not saying you can't get gas mileage that good, I'm just saing don't trust the readout. If you haven't already read about it also be advised that your low fuel light will probably lie to you. It should come on when you have .8 gallons left but it will most likely come on when you have 1.5 to 1.8 gallons left. It's really not a big deal once you figure out how many miles you can go before you HAVE to fill up.

One last thing on the mpg. I get about 42 in the city an have gotten as high as 52 and as low as 40 on the highway. It depends a lot on speed; under 70 mph mileage is great - over 70 mph mileage is good.
 

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It's kind of been my experience that there are two things working with seats. First, there is certainly a break-in period for new seats, but I also think there's a certain amount of adaptation your body needs to make to "fit" the seat particularly if you've been riding with one seat for a long period of time.

I noticed this when I changed out my stock High Ball seat for a slightly used Arlen Ness Vegas seat. The Vegas seat was considerably more comfortable right off, but I still got a bit of "butt ache" after 100 miles or so. Then I went on an extended trip with it. By the time I was returning I noticed the aching was pretty much gone which I can only attribute to me adapting to the seat.
 

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The factory seat for most people is very comfortable but you may have to give it up to 1000 miles for break in.

Also, if your 46 mpg is based off filling the tank after riding and dividing the number of miles on you trip meter by the qty of gas you put in that's awesome. If your 46 mpg is based on the readout it isn't quite accurate. I'm not saying you can't get gas mileage that good, I'm just saing don't trust the readout. If you haven't already read about it also be advised that your low fuel light will probably lie to you. It should come on when you have .8 gallons left but it will most likely come on when you have 1.5 to 1.8 gallons left. It's really not a big deal once you figure out how many miles you can go before you HAVE to fill up.

One last thing on the mpg. I get about 42 in the city an have gotten as high as 52 and as low as 40 on the highway. It depends a lot on speed; under 70 mph mileage is great - over 70 mph mileage is good.
I calculated with phone my mileage, and I did mostly 70 mph but there was also 75-80 for some time. Surprised me. My vtx 1800 wouldn't get that coasting down hill most of the way.:)

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Only down side for me is coming off of a Mustang seat, little numb butt starting about 90 miles non stop ride, which is still not bad, but other seat I never got sore butt. I still may keep the seat since after 1.5 hrs, I should stop and stretch. Great forum and bike! thanks!

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Most, and I say most people, no matter what you ride or sit on, will become uncomfortable after 1 hour of riding. You can change the seat all you want, and you'll get better or worse results (I've always changed to gel and leather, softer and cooler). Compression causes loss of blood flow. It's actually a good thing, it's your body giving you feedback. You should get off a bike periodically to stretch, and give the body a break. It also helps reduce ear problems which can be permanent damage. Very comon to bikers. Additionally discomfort can cause poor riding habits.

Most "Iron Butts" I know are macho guys. You could stick a pin in their ass and they wouldn't feel it, or claim too. I don't know if they have have callouses or nerve damage, but I've always thought of riding with others as a social thing. I'm not in the 1,000 mile a day group, though there are some, I say why push it? Get off, relax, talk about the great stretch you just did and where you want to go. I like to ride for the enjoyment, not pound out miles. Just a personal thing and not saying others are wrong (don't want to get flamed).

Someone in the pack is hurting, period. Whether they admit it or not. Treat it the same as you do gas. Not everyone has great gas mpg or large tanks, and we stop well before they run out. why make them nervous?

Riding this way always makes me want to do more the next day, and gets me plenty of company, when I want it!
 

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Such considerate, good advice...

Most, and I say most people, no matter what you ride or sit on, will become uncomfortable after 1 hour of riding. You can change the seat all you want, and you'll get better or worse results (I've always changed to gel and leather, softer and cooler). Compression causes loss of blood flow. It's actually a good thing, it's your body giving you feedback. You should get off a bike periodically to stretch, and give the body a break. It also helps reduce ear problems which can be permanent damage. Very comon to bikers. Additionally discomfort can cause poor riding habits.

Most "Iron Butts" I know are macho guys. You could stick a pin in their ass and they wouldn't feel it, or claim too. I don't know if they have have callouses or nerve damage, but I've always thought of riding with others as a social thing. I'm not in the 1,000 mile a day group, though there are some, I say why push it? Get off, relax, talk about the great stretch you just did and where you want to go. I like to ride for the enjoyment, not pound out miles. Just a personal thing and not saying others are wrong (don't want to get flamed).

Someone in the pack is hurting, period. Whether they admit it or not. Treat it the same as you do gas. Not everyone has great gas mpg or large tanks, and we stop well before they run out. why make them nervous?

Riding this way always makes me want to do more the next day, and gets me plenty of company, when I want it!
I have friends who won't ride in groups just because they have low thresholds of muscle or nerve pain/stiffness (and they are not old either). They enjoy spirited riding, but they want to get off the damned thing and stretch sooner rather than later, especially if tensed by technical riding, curves, etc. And the older you get, the more prone to these little aches and pains, plus you are so right about letting down defensive riding habits if you having an ache nagging you.

As for becoming acclimated to the bikes's ergonomics, at my age (65) I figure it's going to take me an easy 3 weeks to re-adapt to the saddle, bars, pegs and get back into riding comfortably every spring, and I exercise regularly.

In all, wise, considerate advice for anyone leading a ride--whether of three or 13; you're going to have to stop, so why not do it earlier and keep everybody "refreshed?" :p
 
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