[secular1]

I recently installed Lloyd'z Fuel Controller, Lloyd'z Airbox and Conquest Custom's Ground Pounder Exhaust on my 2016 Hammer S. Does anyone else have a similar setup? If so, what settings are you using on the fuel controller? I'm trying to get it tuned without getting it on a dyno. Any help is greatly appreciated, as always! Thanks again!

 

[visionjohnny]

don't know if there is help here

Power Commander Maps - The Vic Shop

 

[half_crazy]

Tune it....

Start with all the settings off or to the left.
Find a nice clear “closed course” to do the settings on.
GREEN: Run steady at 30 mph in second gear. Add fuel to the green until the surging stops, then add one full point.
YELLOW: Run steady at 30 mph in second gear. Smack the throttle and concentrate on the acceleration feel. You should notice it getting better as you add yellow. Keep adding yellow until the acceleration feels mushy, then back off one full point from that setting.
RED: Generally green plus one full point. If you want to play with it beyond that, try running at 60 mph in third gear. Do a hard roll on and concentrate on the way it pulls and how hard it pulls.
GREEN-BLUE: Leave off. If you have read Lloyd’s instructions you know what this setting does and if you need it or not. *** This setting is used when Nitrous Oxide is going to be used. It will dump a butt-load of fuel into the engine when the nitrous oxide system is activated.***
RED-BLUE: Generally 2.5 to 3.
YELLOW-BLUE:Generally 2.5 to 3.

 

[RICZ]

Secular1, if you are referring to the Lloydz VFCIII, your best to give them a call for some base settings and go from there. Its strictly a seat-of-the-pants tune and every bike's engine is different. I started out using other's settings and it didn't work for me like it worked for them. Be patient Grasshopper - it'll take time and many rides before you find the right numbers. I'm pretty satisfied where mine is; she pulls strong all they way to the limiter, gets great fuel mileage, the plugs look right and there's only a modicum of popping.

 

[vindex1963]

I set mine with a wide band 02 and an air/fuel gauge. Green 3 everything else off. Victory mapping is very rich under acceleration and wide open throttle the recommended settings Lloydz sent me were extremely rich. The only place that needed fuel added was at cruise that's where the green=3 comes from.

 

[RICZ]

Isn't green the idle setting?

 

[vindex1963]

Isn't green the idle setting?

Green Idle and cruise. Yellow accleration red wide open.

 

[Hammer07]

fuel controller connections

Just got one question on fuel controller. Does it hook to front injector or the back injector and then to fuel harness. Not sure about settings. It needs to be where you can see it to program it it seems like. Idle no problem; idle mode is green and red light and adjust plus or minus till you have only a green light. Other 2 modes might be a little more trouble. Took mine back off because they wanted $250 to dyno and set.....:frown

 

[RICZ]

Just got one question on fuel controller. Does it hook to front injector or the back injector and then to fuel harness. Not sure about settings. It needs to be where you can see it to program it it seems like. Idle no problem; idle mode is green and red light and adjust plus or minus till you have only a green light. Other 2 modes might be a little more trouble. Took mine back off because they wanted $250 to dyno and set.....:frown

Is the controller in question a Dobeck type - that is a manually adjusted one like a Lloydz VFCIII? If so, I can help - as well as some others here - as I just dialed mine in with the help of an AFR (air/fuel ratio) meter. I kept the controller in place behind the left side cover.
I'm a cheap bastard, er frugal sort who wants bang for the buck and the lowest buck possible. I do believe I have a better tune than if I spent over $600+ for a PCV and a dyno run cuz I did it in the real world.

 

[53canuck]

everything is on Lloydz site

https://lloydz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/VFC-08-7.7.15.pdf

 

[Hammer07]

Correct harness connections....HELP...The controller is a Wisconsin and I have lost the original directions. I am certain the original instruction said hook it to front injector with one set of connectors and then to wiring harness. Called Wiseco and they said hook it to back injector. What is correct? ANY help appreciated....Hammer 07:eek

 

[Hammer07]

Correct harness connections....HELP...The controller is a Wisconsin and I have lost the original directions. I am certain the original instruction said hook it to front injector with one set of connectors and then to wiring harness. Called Wiseco and they said hook it to back injector. What is correct? ANY help appreciated....Hammer 07:eek

 

[RICZ]

Might this be of help?.............
https://www.wiseco.com/PDFs/Manuals/FMCManual-English.pdf
If this is the controller, I think you are to disconnect the O2 sensors. And I have one like it and can assist you.

 

[RICZ]

everything is on Lloydz site

https://lloydz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/VFC-08-7.7.15.pdf

I "tuned" according to those directions and when I installed an AFR meter, I found it was running quite lean and particularly lean in cruise, where one is most the time. Not good. What caused me to buy the meter was that a couple times, a fill up resulted in 60 mpg after highway runs - that indicates a lean condition. I am very pleased with the results: Stronger in low RPMs, healthier idle, smoother take off from a stop, smoother acceleration and lower mpg #s (yes, that's a good thing).

 

[53canuck]

Thanks for that info @RICZ . I have had a used fuel controller for a few years but never got around to installing it. The bike runs great as it is and my mpg is bang on so there was no urgency. I might install it over the winter but may now put a sniffer as my Christmas gift. I've been doing some reading and without a proper dyno tune it seems to be the only way to really be positive you've done it right is with one of them. I'll also have to see if buying one myself or getting a shop up the highway to do it with theirs is cheaper.

Thanks again.

 

[visionjohnny]

07's wouldn't have 02 sensors

 

[53canuck]

He can get a shop to weld on some threads higher up or jam a sniffer up the exhaust pipe to get the AFR. If the cat is still there the reading may be off a bit depending on how far he can get it in the pipe.

 

[RICZ]

The AFR meter I bought came with a weld on bung for its sensor, in the event the bike is an earlier model w/o O2s. My guess is that any muffler shop would have them and can either give you one, or will weld one onto you pipe for you.
53Canuck....If you are pleased with how your bike is running, I suggest you go against the common lack of wisdom here and leave well enough alone. Trust me; change just one thing and you have opened Pandora's Box. (No reference to a music site or a certain female's site given.)