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Just put a Avon cobra on the rear of my 2010 kingpin today!
Only got 4300 miles on the original dunflop! It's like a whole new bike I love it so far! I don't know what kind of mileage to expect from the Avon but it can't be any worse than the dunflop! Still have the original dunflop on the front but it is over half worn out. I think I'm going to put a Michelin commander 2 on the front. The tread pattern on both it and the Avon are very close and I can keep a bias ply on the front and a radial on the rear. The commanders get great mileage. Just my thoughts I know everyone won't agree.
 

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so how often do you check the air pressure and do you have a good gauge or one of them worthless pencil stick gauges
By the way Avon say you should run more air in tire then whats normal
 

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I have over 17,500 mi on my stock Bumflops , still have a little left . I been running mine Fr + R , + 3lbs each
 

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My bike is a 2010 bought new this year. I think the tires are just old. I have a good gage and check the pressure every 2 weeks. I had dunflops on my Honda and hated them on it. I went with the commander 2 on it and loved them, can't get a 180-55-18 in them for my kingpin.
 

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I got 15,00 out of my first set of Dunlops, and look to get at least that much on the ones I put on in 2012. I then plan on "Perelli Fire Dragons" Bias front, radial rear. They are a little less expensive, and can be purchased on line. I like the Dunlops though. I could change my mind and stay with OEMs again,
and that is definite!
 

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Sorry, 15,000 miles on the first set. I watch the tire air pressure closely with 36 lbs. in the front, and 42 lbs. in the rear. I am 230 lbs. I never ride 2up, my wife can't ride she has a Heart Valve.
 

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Avon makes a good tire, and they're right. Radials generally need a couple PSI more than bias tires because they have more flexible sidewalls. Let us know how your set up works. While you can run Bias front/ radial rear, most folks around here (and I'm one of them) will recommend keeping front and rear tires the same. I run radials (Bridgestone Exedras) as do quite a few others, while many like to stay bias ply. However, EVERYONE likes avons.
 

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Avon makes a good tire, and they're right. Radials generally need a couple PSI more than bias tires because they have more flexible sidewalls. Let us know how your set up works. While you can run Bias front/ radial rear, most folks around here (and I'm one of them) will recommend keeping front and rear tires the same. I run radials (Bridgestone Exedras) as do quite a few others, while many like to stay bias ply. However, EVERYONE likes avons.
EVERYONE???...thats a bold statement...I love Pirelli Night Dragons
 

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I just put the Avon Cobras on my XC , wont know how good they are until March or April . I expect to get at least 15-20 K out of them .
 

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"EVERYONE???...thats a bold statement...I love Pirelli Night Dragons"
Yes, admittedly it is. And while we all have our own personal favorite, I have yet to see anyone say they don't like Avons. I like the 'Stones because they're cheap and I get 9 to 10k out of a rear and almost 20k in front. But if I could afford them I'd run Avons in a heartbeat. BTW- How many miles do you get out of the night dragons? I've been considering them IF they'll get me substantially more miles per tire.
 

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"EVERYONE???...thats a bold statement...I love Pirelli Night Dragons"
Yes, admittedly it is. And while we all have our own personal favorite, I have yet to see anyone say they don't like Avons. I like the 'Stones because they're cheap and I get 9 to 10k out of a rear and almost 20k in front. But if I could afford them I'd run Avons in a heartbeat. BTW- How many miles do you get out of the night dragons? I've been considering them IF they'll get me substantially more miles per tire.
you cant compare mileage between countries really, from what Ive seen on here you get a hell of a lot more miles out of whatever tyres you run.
Could be the types of roads, superhighways and huge cities.
you don't have the abrasive road surface, also I rarely ride straight roads,
Im lucky if I get 6K miles out of Night Dragons, or any tyre with decent grip under adverse conditions.
I dont ride for good tyre wear or fuel consumption.
Had Avon Cobras on my old K2 Honda 750/4 an d although great in the dry they weren't confidence inspiring in the wet.
 

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Dunlop American Elite bias

Sorry to repeat this info but the other thread is in the Tech/Perf forum and it belongs here in the Kingpin section. Starting late 2015 we finally have a new bias ply tire option for the Kingpin. Dunlop American Elite bias ply 180/55B18 rear and 130/70B18 front. The rear has Dunlop's MultiTread technology. Find them on americanmototire.com for around $310/pair. Better price than the OEM bias tires from Victory or the HD D407/D408F bias plys that also work well on the Kingpin. I have tried radials from Metzeler, Bridgestone Exedra, and my buddy has tried Avon Cobra but they all cause the wobble to some extent (with windshield). Dunlop's 2016 Motorcycle Tires brochure also shows that American Elites are OEM tires on most of the Indian bikes and one HD, but those are mostly 17" or 16" wheels. The "high speed wobble" issue when running radials on Kingpin I believe affects every rider/bike differently, and for some riders/bikes does not happen especially if no windshield is installed. For me and my Kingpin it starts around 70mph and I found that the wobble went away entirely if I removed my OE windshield and went without one, or installed a very small windshield (bullet style?) that came off a Hammer. Tire pressure in the radials would not resolve the wobble with radials for me. I'll post up on how the American Elites perform after I test them but being from Minnesota it's gonna be a while. Cool Blue has the new American Elite bias rear on his Kingpin and it is working for him (he also had the wobble with radials and a windshield).
 

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I just put the Avon Cobras on my XC , wont know how good they are until March or April . I expect to get at least 15-20 K out of them .
Good luck with that. They may make a fella feel like Spiderman, but damn they go away fast
 

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Ahhh so my new 18" front wheel with 130 70 18 combined with my rear 180 55 18 is same combo as the old highly revered Kingpin hey.
Interesting.
 

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American Elite bias

I got these tires tested on my Kingpin and they work great! Bike was rock steady all the way up to speeds not allowed, none of the high speed wobble issue I've seen with all radials plus windshield. We had one warm Feb day in Minnesota so I was able to try these tires out for about 20 miles. Dunlop American Elite bias ply 180/55B18 rear and 130/70B18 front.
 

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I had to replace the rear tire on my 2007 kingpin last year at only 4800 miles.. Seems like they should last a lot longer than that?? What is normal for tire wear?
 
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