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Thinking of putting these on my 09. They claim (hacker) that they out perform the victory performance pipes. I currently have the victory 2 into 1 pipe but want something different but I don't want to kill performance. I have the S&S air cleaner and a PCV. Anyone play with these pipes and how did they perform?
 

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I recently installed a set of these on my 2012 Highball along with an S&S air intake and Hackers AMS fuel tuner. I'm not sure if Hacker's increase numbers are completely accurate as I've never had it on the dyno but I would safely say that was an improvement over the stock exhaust I had.

If you're interested in the zoomies couple things to know prior to making the purchase and reading some of other people's reviews about them. Good news is the zoomies do have a great sound, looks, and quality of product seems up to my par for the purchase price. Bad news is customer service is to politely put it a little lacking. I didn't have an awful experience like some guys but what bothered me is they told me 3-4 weeks and it ended up being every bit of 7-8 weeks. If you're not in a hurry then this is a mute point but just know they must have a weird method of reading a calendar because even calling for updates a few times it was always "should ship next week". Other then that when I had to ask any tech or additional support questions they were helpful in that regard.
 

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Anything is probably an improvement over Vic "performance" pipes.
 

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Of all the victory exhaust I would think the 2 into 1 would be the hardest pipe to beat.
 

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Of all the victory exhaust I would think the 2 into 1 would be the hardest pipe to beat.
Actually... the 'Swept' pipes lose less power in a stage 1 than the 2-1









Like the man said, almost anything is better than the Victory pipes as far as making power. Evidently, to Victory "performance" means they are louder...


http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/victory-vegas-8ball-project-part-1-89780.html
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/victory-vegas-8ball-project-evil-8-part-2-90808.html
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/victory-vegas-8ball-project-evil-8-part-3-90954.html



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Thinking of putting these on my 09. They claim (hacker) that they out perform the victory performance pipes. I currently have the victory 2 into 1 pipe but want something different but I don't want to kill performance. I have the S&S air cleaner and a PCV. Anyone play with these pipes and how did they perform?
I've got them on my 06 JP, but I've never had it dyno'd, so I don't know what numbers I'm seeing. But i love how they look and how they sound, and haven't had any problems.
 

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I want something more radical. The hackers look good but I can't get over the look and sound of the ground pounders. They're just so $$$$$$$$. Anyone have any used ones for sale?
 

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i have some slightly damaged ground pounders for sale.look in classifieds
 

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Like the man said, almost anything is better than the Victory pipes as far as making power. Evidently, to Victory "performance" means they are louder...
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/victory-vegas-8ball-project-part-1-89780.html

"Is the drop in power noticeable on the street? Not especially. After all, we’re talking about only a few ponies at peak rpm, and a significantly small drop in torque beyond 3000 rpm.

So why did the collector feel better in terms of how it performed on the street during acceleration? We can only conclude that the answer rested in the system’s sound and noise level."

In the end, it's all about perception as we humans are terribly inaccurate sensors. That said, I don't wanna race ya. :eek:
 

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I bought my 08 Jackpot with Lloyd's pistons and cams, aircleaner etc. I had the Ness 2nd generation slash style pipes on it when I bought it. It never seemed to have the low end I thought it should have. I bought a Victory performance 2 into 1 pipe on ebay. I removed the cat inserts had to make some adjustments with the fuel controller(Lloyd's). It may not make the HP #'s but I gained a ton of low end, midrange is still very good, top end lost some. It seemed with the slash pipes, it wouldn't wake up until 3500 rpm. For me, this setup runs best for my type of riding. You may give up some low end to gain top end.
 

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I had the RPW Slash (SlashNess) pipes and made 106 ft-lbs at 2200 rpm. They do kinda stay flat until 3200. The Thor pipe is very linear (curve looks like an arc) after 2500. If you find a pipe that does better on average torque across the tach than the Thor, BUY IT.
 
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