If you own KewMetals Meathooks you may be interested in the the "Heated Conversation" going on over at Rusty Jones Facebook page. He has introduced some bars called "Outlaw" that look similar to the MeatHooks. He states they are bent different. Binford Customs (makes the MeatHooks) is saying he ripped them off. One difference I see is that he did not drill out the holes to wire internally. What do you see. No stake in it for me...they do look close. On the *** somewhere here back a year or so ago I thought there were some similar looking bars and asked Big Joe at Kewl Metals if they were Meathooks...... he stated they were bent differently. So I do not have a good eye for subtle differences and they are 350 bucks.