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ok after lots and lots of reaserching,reading,watchin and dealership stops....ive decided to go with victory.....
but im hung up on either the hammer 8-ball i love the way it feels and looks and love the fat tire(im aware of the negatives of the big tire)

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the vegas 8ball ....no fat tire but it has the 6spd tranny !!!!!

i coming out of owning 2 crotch rockets and still want a unique fun bike but is the 6spd that much better then the 5spd? i like crusing but also like drag racing.... is the 5spd really that bad at 70-80 mph that i should give up the looks i really want...??? tell me your pros and cons and what you have......my local dealership has a hammer 8-ball 2010 leftover for the same price as a 2011 vegas 8-ball and im torn......please help:confused:cheers thank you
 

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Here is my thinking on 5sp vs 6sp. If you plan on doing a lot of highway driving and long trips then go with a 6sp. If you are more or less around town then the 5sp will do you fine.
 

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I say go Hammer (go big or go home). Coming from a crotch rocket you will like the straight up ride, the big back tire, the dual front discs, and the hide-a-way back seat.
The only negative with the back tire is the cost.
P.S. Didn't know the Hammer came with a 5-speed:confused:
 

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test ride both bikes and inquire on the 2011 models,they come with
the 106c.i. 6 speed.
 

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The only negative with the back tire is the cost.
Metzler ME880 XXL 260/40VR-18 was only $229.95 +$10.00 shipping.
Not so bad.....
 

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you forgot plus $100.00 to have it put on.
 

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Depends on if you take the bike in or just the wheel - only ran me $50 taking the bike in, otherwise it would've been $35.00, still not bad....
 

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$100.00 to put the tire on the rim or are you talking about installing also?

I pay $40.00 to have my tire mounted and install it myself.
 

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ok well then that makes things alil easier :) the 6spd was my biggest upset and an extra 6ci is always welcome coming for my 600 thats making over 100rwhp in a 385lbs package i welcome the extra power in that big heavy pig cheers......

now to all of you that have a hammer how do you guys like it ? my friend is pushing my to get a m109r instead but i like victory styling more.....im not worried about tire cost tires for my 600 run me 300+ front and rear an my buddy installs for me
 

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good luck with the Hammer! You will really like the vic bikes!
If you can afford a new 2011, I would recommend you get it!
They have redone the transmission to make the bikes quieter,
or so that you can hear the exhaust note louder!

Have fun and ride safe!
 

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Is the 2010 100/5 open or closed loop?
I think the M109 will have more hp and torque for sure (like 118 hp 140 ft #). My problem with the M109 is the lack of chrome, especially the wheels. This make the bike look cheap. Other than that the M109 would be a great choice.
 

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ok well then that makes things alil easier :) the 6spd was my biggest upset and an extra 6ci is always welcome coming for my 600 thats making over 100rwhp in a 385lbs package i welcome the extra power in that big heavy pig cheers......

now to all of you that have a hammer how do you guys like it ? my friend is pushing my to get a m109r instead but i like victory styling more.....
m109 is a fine bike but won't keep an american worker working.....cheers
 

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Is the 2010 100/5 open or closed loop?
I think the M109 will have more hp and torque for sure (like 118 hp 140 ft #). My problem with the M109 is the lack of chrome, especially the wheels. This make the bike look cheap. Other than that the M109 would be a great choice.

M109's are nice but they don't put out that much torque as specified in the above quote. Stage one Vics with an S&S intake will produce more torque than the M109. Was all set to get the M109 until I saw the Vics.
 

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I've been looking around and the HD 110 Screaming Eagle and Yamaha Raider 113 are around 100 hp +/- and 110 ft lb +/- . On the Thunder Mfg website they show with their intake the M109 at 123 hp no torque listed. I saw the 118/140 on another website.
 

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I've been looking around and the HD 110 Screaming Eagle and Yamaha Raider 113 are around 100 hp +/- and 110 ft lb +/- . On the Thunder Mfg website they show with their intake the M109 at 123 hp no torque listed. I saw the 118/140 on another website.

Actually, in their stock forms, both the Yamaha and HD Screamin Eagle put out about 80 hp to the wheel. This is a fact. You'd think with all that displacement they would priduce more power but they don't. Now put and air cleaner and a set of pipes on the Raider and you've got yourself a torque monster.
 

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I'm kindof in the same boat I am looking at all kinds of bikes and really like the Victory... So here is my question. I am to understand form my harley budys that a sportster is good for a couple hours, softail is good for about 6 and a road king is a ride all you want... does Victory work about the same? How does a Kingpin compare to a Vegas or a Crossroads for ride time before you get really uncomfortable? I am riding the crap out of a sporster now and its not what I want!
 

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I came from an 04 sporty to an 06 Kingpin. I can appreciate your analysis. The KP is much more comfy and is better for longer rides than a sporty. I actually test rode a RoadKing before buying my KP. Personally, I found the KP to be a better rider, more comfy, more technologically advanced and quicker than the RK. I still love the classic look of the RK, but decided on owning a KP instead, and I am not disappointed with my decision thus far. I currently have my KP set up for solo, short distance riding, but can change that relatively quickly.

I would encourage you to go test ride what you are interested in. I did not try a CrossCountry, as I was not considering buying new.

And, by the way, I still love the sporty bikes. May own one again someday. But wouldn't trade my KP for one. No way. The KP is in a different class altogether, like comparing the sporty to a softail.
 
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