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Help me out here. I ordered a XCT and was exited about it. All I hear here and in a few other forums is about popping exhaust, finicky ECM's and throttle, crappy build quality, poor alignments, poorer dealer support and so forth.
Victory has dropped their warranty from 5 years to 1. Sounds like thy don't even believe in their product.

So, to the help me out department. 'Splain to me why I shouldn't cancel my order. I know you hear every little problem, real or immagined on the interweb, but I'm getting nervous about it now. I normally ride 20-30K per year. Am I doomed to buying a trailer and having outings cancelled. I mean all anyone can do is compare to HD, is that the best they can do? I have yet to hear any good.

I hope I didn't make an expensive mistake, although I can cut the losses. I would like some kind of encouragement.

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I've had my XCT for just over two months, and put right at 3200 miles on it. Interstate, neighborhood, mountain/country roads...I am thrilled with my XCT.

Never had an issue with the throttle. I have the RPW pipes and VFC-III, and do get some popping. Not sure what the big deal is, as it is rare, and the pipes are noisy anyway. Might be an issue for others, but not me. No issues with alignment, no complaints about build quality, and my dealer rocks. I may not be the guy you want to talk to ;)

Seriously, my biggest complaint is the plastic fork guards. I haven't broken one yet, but they are definately craptastic. They will be the first thing I replace. Before it sounds like I have a whole list of things, I really only want to upgrade my stereo.

Yes, the tranny clunks. No it does not effect performance. I actually like it, as I know without a doubt I have made the shift.

This bike rides like a dream, and handles amazingly well, plus it gets a ton of attention. I honestly could not be happier with my purchase, but that is me.
 

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Help me out here. I ordered a XCT and was exited about it. All I hear here and in a few other forums is about popping exhaust, finicky ECM's and throttle, crappy build quality, poor alignments, poorer dealer support and so forth.
Victory has dropped their warranty from 5 years to 1. Sounds like thy don't even believe in their product.

So, to the help me out department. 'Splain to me why I shouldn't cancel my order. I know you hear every little problem, real or immagined on the interweb, but I'm getting nervous about it now. I normally ride 20-30K per year. Am I doomed to buying a trailer and having outings cancelled. I mean all anyone can do is compare to HD, is that the best they can do? I have yet to hear any good.

I hope I didn't make an expensive mistake, although I can cut the losses. I would like some kind of encouragement.

Thanks
Finicky ECM....No, but just like every other computerized machine on the planet. They like good battery connections. In almost 9 years with these bikes. I have seen 3 ECM failures, and one of those was caused by an accident
Build quality issues....No but I will admit that the cosmetics; while on par with the Japs. They are a tick behind HD. Then again the actual machine is a couple of ticks above HD. Reliability, performance, ergonomics, and serviceability all fall towards Vic. I ride almost every day rain or shine. Average 22000 miles a year, and my bikes have never let me down. So no a trailer is not in your future.
Pops.....Yup; you will have a few pops with an open exhaust on a Vic. Some exhausts are worse then others, but to be honest. There is NO closed loop bike without some pop issues. The louder the pipe. The louder the pop. My XC has D&D slash cuts on it, and I very rarely hear anything.
Warranty...That was a promotional gimmick, and they gave you an extended policy that took you to 5 years. You can buy the same warranty pretty cheap.
 

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Actually you are exacly the kind I want to hear from. I wish you had 2 years insted of 2 months, but hey you can only tell what you know.
Clunking transmissions don't bother me but popping in the exhaust is a problem. Damage is happening if it bothers or not. HOWEVER, I don't plan on doing a stage 1, especially till they figure out how to do it better. They have work to do on it.

Thanks for the input. I thought a happy Victory owner was like the Tooth Fairy.
 

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Actually you are exacly the kind I want to hear from. I wish you had 2 years insted of 2 months, but hey you can only tell what you know.
Clunking transmissions don't bother me but popping in the exhaust is a problem. Damage is happening if it bothers or not. HOWEVER, I don't plan on doing a stage 1, especially till they figure out how to do it better. They have work to do on it.

Thanks for the input. I thought a happy Victory owner was like the Tooth Fairy.
It's like anything else. People will bitch a lot sooner than they will rave about anything. Screw someone over, and they'll tell a thousand people. Give good service and they might tell one.
 

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It's like anything else. People will bitch a lot sooner than they will rave about anything. Screw someone over, and they'll tell a thousand people. Give good service and they might tell one.
Too true dog. One of the main reasons anyone seeks out a forum is for information for a current issue. Very rarely will someone seek a forum just to sing said product's praises.

I love my Vegas. One of the best decisions ever made. Any issue I've come across with my Vic was just learning it's nuances. Be confident in your purchase. They really are great rides. Especially when you consider they've (Victory) been around for a relatively short span of time. You will ALWAYS read more bad than good.
 

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Damage is happening if it bothers or not.
Beg to differ. No damage is happening. This is a case of a intentional hot and loaded with oxygen mixture being introduced to clean cats, and pass emissions under current regs. This is not a consistent lean condition, rather a split second occurrence. Minor iritant yes, cause for alarm no.
Lots and lots of happy Vic owners to be found. They are after all the number one rated by JD Powers for owner satisfaction. You just keep honing in on the complaint threads

BTW when I say I have seen 3 ECM failures. I am talking about at work or on the web. Not that happened to my bikes
 

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You just keep honing in on the complaint threads
+1 on thatthumb up

In your defense though Texas, they are 100 times easier to find than the good posts. You also have to consider the source of the bad info you read. Maybe it's someone working on their scoot that is in over their head. Maybe they don't know a thing about motorcycles. Maybe they just don't know what's up. Hell I'm an idiot about a lot of things, and not afraid to admit it. Half the time I read about a rider's issue with their bike is when they did something to it and screwed it up. I'm sure someday I WILL fall into that category.

I didn't at the time, nor do I now feel the need to invest in a trailer. The only time I can see this happening is when I mod out the motor and can't start it before it's properly tuned. Depending on the extent, every bike is this way that I know of. If you're really concerned about the potential to have to trailer the bike due to being stranded, just pay the 30bones a year to the VRA and you have 24/7 roadside assistance. The first year is included with new bike purchase though.

The one thing that I am confident in Texas is that at this price point, you would be very hard pressed to find a better bike manufacturer. I did a **** ton of research before pulling my trigger, haven't looked back since.
 

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Beg to differ. No damage is happening. This is a case of a intentional hot and loaded with oxygen mixture being introduced to clean cats, and pass emissions under current regs. This is not a consistent lean condition, rather a split second occurrence. Minor iritant yes, cause for alarm no.
Lots and lots of happy Vic owners to be found. They are after all the number one rated by JD Powers for owner satisfaction. You just keep honing in on the complaint threads

BTW when I say I have seen 3 ECM failures. I am talking about at work or on the web. Not that happened to my bikes
I understand you are a mechanical type. I may not be understanding what some are describing as backfire, popping, or what have you. I do understand that the ECM, throttle or what ever has a tendancy to cut the engine in a fast wind up. Some have described it as the computer thinking there is a runaway syptom and cutting the engine. It may just be the bad habbits of some playing with the throttle. A few have said it scared the begeebers out of them and a couple have said they "almost went down" over it. I know, that should be taken with several grains of salt. LOL

It is good to hear about some happy owners though.
 

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Gotta remember if you search for issues, you will find threads discussing the issues. I researched this an other forums thoroughly before deciding on Victory, as well as Consumer Reports and Motorcycle.com. I even asked this forum in my first post if Vics had any issues.

Every machine's got its gremlins, but from research and my minimal experience, the Victory gremlins are much more minor and manageable than many others.
 

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I understand you are a mechanical type. I may not be understanding what some are describing as backfire, popping, or what have you. I do understand that the ECM, throttle or what ever has a tendancy to cut the engine in a fast wind up. Some have described it as the computer thinking there is a runaway syptom and cutting the engine. It may just be the bad habbits of some playing with the throttle. A few have said it scared the begeebers out of them and a couple have said they "almost went down" over it. I know, that should be taken with several grains of salt. LOL

It is good to hear about some happy owners though.
Sounds like a description of people hitting the rev limiter(5500 in 1st-4th) Can't think of an F.I. bike that does not have one, and the rider has to be at least as smart at the machine when riding. First time you hit it. I would say it will give you a little bit of a shock, but ods of hitting it on an unmodified bike are kinda slim. Unmodified the intakes on virtually every Vic runs out of flow around 4500.
Don't get me wrong BTW. I'm just trying to address your concerns as I read them, and drawing from some comments you have made in other threads. I know I can come off as an ass but really my typing just sucks. So I tend to keep answers short. Or as Joe Friday would say. Just the facts
 

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Search for problems and you are going to find them but read the entire threads and you'll fiind that most problems are setup related. Battery cables are the cause of 99% of the complaints on all the Victory forums and you would be hard pressed to find anyone who's problems didn't evaporate as soon as they tighten their cables. Unfortunately you'll also find that it's rare for people to use the search function when they have a problem. If they did you would find that the majority of the complaints wouldn't be posted because most people would read about their problems and solve them rather than complain.

Honestly look at all these complaints you are seeing and try to figure out how many are repeats and how many didn't get quick responses on how to fix them. Once you realize the problem is more with people than the bikes you'll feel a lot better. Hell if you listened to everything everyone finds to complain about you wouldn't be able to find anything that's safe to eat/drink/smell/drive/etc...
 

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Hey Lost,
I never owned a Victory before my XR. So I did my homework and checked the forums (as you are doing) and learned that no one was having any serious problems. When signing the papers for my XR, I was asked if I wanted the extended warranty. I told the sales manager that according to my research, I'd just be throwing money at you and getting nothing in return. He said, you're right...we only see Victorys in our shop for routine service and accessories. If you like what you see and the test ride impresses, then go for it! Stop crossing bridges that aren't there and get a bike that will be the ride of your nit picky life.
 

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Just to add to what RICZ said, my dealer is also a close personal friend who I have known for years, so I trust him to tell me the truth. He knew I was going to buy a bike from him, and the reality is, I could have gotten just about anything I wanted. He has HD's, including CVO's, in his shop all day long, and is a BMW/Triumph/Victory dealer.

When I went in, and started looking around, I was actually leaning towards a Triumph. After talking to him, I realized/learned two things. I have known him for many years, and he can ride literally whatever he wants. He has always ridden a Vic. And, as he put it, "I'd be one broke mofo if I relied on money from Vics coming through my service department. They come in for scheduled maintenance, and body repair after someone stacks them up. That's it."

Again, I was in a position where I could afford anything in his store, including any of the CVO's. He opened up his books (well, computer) to me, and answered every question I had. I probably spent 10 hours in the back talking to his techs, too. All of them ride Vics. All of his sales guys ride Vics. Most of them are on their second or third Vics (upgrading to bigger/newer models). That all added up and put me on a Vic...
 

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I have owned an 07 Vic and put 35,000 miles on it and never had it break down. In fact I had zero warrantee issues. Traded it in on an 11 Cross Country. Have 17,000 miles on this bike and two years remaining on the warrantee. Have never had a claim. Let me repeat this for you No Issues, none nada. Im 65 years old. ride the crap out of my bikes since 1962. The Vic is a very good product. But, don't take my word for this. spend some time reading posts on various forums. Few problems, easy solutions for the most part
 

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I have had my pin for three and a half years 70,000 miles. Great bike. I did join the VRA to have a tow if needed a cheap $30 bucks for some piece of mind. And I sure was glad I did. Needed them once. They brought me fuel.
 

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Sounds like a description of people hitting the rev limiter(5500 in 1st-4th) Can't think of an F.I. bike that does not have one, and the rider has to be at least as smart at the machine when riding. First time you hit it. I would say it will give you a little bit of a shock, but ods of hitting it on an unmodified bike are kinda slim. Unmodified the intakes on virtually every Vic runs out of flow around 4500.
Don't get me wrong BTW. I'm just trying to address your concerns as I read them, and drawing from some comments you have made in other threads. I know I can come off as an ass but really my typing just sucks. So I tend to keep answers short. Or as Joe Friday would say. Just the facts
Kevin, I think what he was referring our bikes tendency to quit/stall if you blip or goose the throttle especially while down shifting. The quote he used about "almost went done" likely came from me cause it's true. I'm pretty much out of the habit now but it was an adjustment and I've never heard of another brand having this issue.

All that said I also always say that this bike has the best suspension, handling and ergonomics of anything else out there. I'm adjusting to the buzz/rattle/vibration, aka "character", of the two cylinder bike. I'd imagine that if a person is used the this "character" that is not a problem.
 

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Thank you to everyone for taking the time to respond.

For those who think I was looking for problems, I was actually looking for some positive. Very little of that on the boards. Yes, I understand it is the nature of the beast, so I asked and got some of what I was seeking.

In most cases, problems are perceived, in some they aren't. I a lot as has been said here it is a poor set up. A few are problems, just no one knows how to fix it, so it can't be a "problem", right? :ltr:

Anyhoo, charactor and quirks aside, I hope I enjoy the Vic. I will certainly enjoy not being in pain, or having to make a constant conscious effort to keep from it.

Thanks again and keep the shiney side up.
 

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I have had my pin for three and a half years 70,000 miles. Great bike. I did join the VRA to have a tow if needed a cheap $30 bucks for some piece of mind. And I sure was glad I did. Needed them once. They brought me fuel.
So what you're saying is the Vics have a tendency to run out fuel?
 
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